Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Where we are today: - GDM is undergoing a security check to be included in main [1]. - We've got GNOME Shell onto the 17.10 image, running under LightDM. - We've attempted to get the GNOME Shell lock screen running with LightDM and using GNOME Shell as a LightDM Greeter. Which this still s

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-30 Thread Daniel van Vugt
(I know the question wasn't directly relevant to this thread but it's worth clearing up...) Mir /was/ going to support remote desktops eventually. Just as Gnome Shell on Wayland will (if not already) support them. The functionality might not be complete yet, but that's just because it's still

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-27 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 27.04.2017, 21:52 +0500 schrieb Khurshid Alam: > > I just tried gdm Ubuntu-Gnome 17.04. I couldn't make it work with any > x11 vnc server like x11vnc. So it is safe to assume with gdm+wayland > these vnc servers will become obsolete. > thats not a gdm thing ... vnc and any

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-27 Thread Khurshid Alam
Hi, On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: * lightdm + well tested in Ubuntu + we have people in the team knowing the codebase + shared with other flavors/greeters selection + guest session - divergence from upstream - we are the maintainers so it's more work for us - gnome-

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-27 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Bryan Quigley > wrote: >> One of my concerns for a gdm change is are we ready to reorg our VTs? > > GDM could default to VT7 if we really wanted to, but why should it > except for tradition? > > I think it's e

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-22 Thread C de-Avillez
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:21:36 -0500 C de-Avillez wrote: > On point for LightDM that I think should be stressed: we can > select DEs on the login pane. A few minutes after my email jbicha pointed to me that gdm3 *does* allow one to select an installed DE. I stand corrected. > > Perhaps I am an

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-22 Thread C de-Avillez
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:13:40 +0200 Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey, > > Le 20/04/2017 à 14:56, Tim a écrit : > > What technical reasons remain ? So far as I can tell its really only > > the tests? > > Robert made the list in his replies, not sure how configuration > systems/logging/remote logi

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-21 Thread Tim
On 22/04/17 08:03, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Is their a process I can kill from a user session to break the lock? loginctl list-sessions # Find the session you are using. If the session is named '2', run loginctl unlock-session 2 that will only work if you are logged in as the user that owns the se

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-21 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Bryan Quigley wrote: > One of my concerns for a gdm change is are we ready to reorg our VTs? GDM could default to VT7 if we really wanted to, but why should it except for tradition? I think it's easier for users to start counting at 1 rather than 7. And it also m

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-21 Thread Robert Ancell
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 8:56 AM Bryan Quigley wrote: > > Lastly, I wanted to know if there are any security differences in how > the login/lock screens work? > Specifically: > Is their a process I can kill from a user session to break the lock? > If I'm able to crash the lock screen, is the user

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-21 Thread Bryan Quigley
I did some testing in a VM with switching different flavors to/from the default dm. Mostly I found that my current VM setup isn't stable (it's my own virt package I'm working on). But I did also see: Lubuntu -> gdm, Lock screen now falls to black screen Gnome -> Lightdm, Wayland failed on the fir

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:57 AM Tim wrote: > > > On 20/04/17 00:32, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > > work with lightdm > That is not entirely right, the GUI for gdm is actually a cut-down > gnome-shell session, this applies to

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-20 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, Le 20/04/2017 à 14:56, Tim a écrit : > What technical reasons remain ? So far as I can tell its really only > the tests? Robert made the list in his replies, not sure how configuration systems/logging/remote login/etc compared and how useful they are but we have several flavors relying on l

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-20 Thread Tim
On 20/04/17 00:32, Sebastien Bacher wrote: - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it work with lightdm That is not entirely right, the GUI for gdm is actually a cut-down gnome-shell session, this applies to both lock screen and greeter. gdm does however handle all

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:58 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Sebastien Bacher > wrote: > > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > > work with lightdm > > Generally, lightdm works with GNOME, but it hasn't been tested much so > it somet

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks Seb, = Disclaimer = Firstly, I should disclose my interests - I am the founder and maintainer of LightDM. I'll try and minimise any biases I might have. Ultimately I want the best outcome and I'm happy with either way we go as long as it makes sense. = History (simplified) = In the begin

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > work with lightdm Generally, lightdm works with GNOME, but it hasn't been tested much so it sometimes take a while before bugs are noticed and fixed. Here's some li

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 19 April 2017 at 15:32, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey there, > > That's a topic that was mentioned during the meeting yesterday and > something we need to decide on early in the cycle since there is going > to be work needed on that front to have a fully working session. > > I'm doing a small s

lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey there, That's a topic that was mentioned during the meeting yesterday and something we need to decide on early in the cycle since there is going to be work needed on that front to have a fully working session. I'm doing a small summary of what I think are the pro (+) and con (-) of each * li