On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:24:15 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On 10 July 2012 17:01, Marc Deslauriers
wrote:
> > Actually, why are we running it every 5 minutes? Wouldn't it make more
> > sense to run it every 5 minutes only if we don't have a connection, and
> > only turn it on following certain
On 10 July 2012 17:01, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> Actually, why are we running it every 5 minutes? Wouldn't it make more
> sense to run it every 5 minutes only if we don't have a connection, and
> only turn it on following certain events, such as a new network
> interface coming up, or when the use
Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre [2012-07-10 14:41 -0400]:
> I'd like to enable connectivity checking in NetworkManager. We'd use
> http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html, running the check
> every 5 minutes starting from the connection being established.
> start.ubuntu.com has already been in use
On Jul 10, 2012 4:37 PM, "Scott Kitterman" wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:46:18 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > This is useful for non-power users. Power users already know how to turn
> > the appropriate knobs to turn unwanted features off.
>
> Only if they know about it. Even most power
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:46:18 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > This is useful for non-power users. Power users already know how to turn
> > the appropriate knobs to turn unwanted features off.
>
> Only if they know about it. Even most p
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:59 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> >> I'm not sure I like the idea of having NM poke that same address every 5
> >> minutes as it sounds like a pretty easy way for anyone to accurately
> >> count the number of Ubuntu machines currently running in any given network.
> >
> >
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:53:53 PM Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Scott Kitterman
wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:46:18 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > > This is useful for non-power users. Power users already know how to turn
> > > the appropriate knobs to t
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:46:18 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> This is useful for non-power users. Power users already know how to turn
> the appropriate knobs to turn unwanted features off.
Only if they know about it. Even most power users don't go digging through
their system's setting after
On 07/10/2012 03:39 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:29 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
>> On 07/10/2012 03:20 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:11 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
On 07/10/2012 03:06 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:4
On 10 July 2012 14:41, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> Connectivity checking would be a big benefit in helping with properly
> recognizing the cases where you're connected to wireless, but actually
> behind a captive portal which catches and redirects requests --
> sometimes not all that graceful
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Marc Deslauriers
wrote:
[...]
> I'm confused...Network Manager already exposes connectivity information
> over dbus, and that's what apps are supposed to use...
Yes, and that will still work ;)
>
>> This would also have allowed to extend the check to work with ot
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:36 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:27:07 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > Solving it for a good proportion of cases is better than not solving it
> > at all.
> >
> > It drives me nuts that Evolution and gnome-xchat spew error messages
> > before
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:29 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 03:20 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:11 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> >> On 07/10/2012 03:06 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Andrea Corbellini
wrote:
> On 10/07/12 20:41, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to enable connectivity checking in NetworkManager. We'd use
>> http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html, running the check
>> every 5 minutes starting from the connec
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 03:27:07 PM Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:21 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:06:32 PM Ted Gould wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu
On 07/10/2012 03:20 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:11 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
>> On 07/10/2012 03:06 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> As fo
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:21 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:06:32 PM Ted Gould wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> > > > As for the actual change, it is limited
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:06:32 PM Ted Gould wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> > > As for the actual change, it is limited to the
> > > /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file; to whi
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:11 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 03:06 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> >>> As for the actual change, it is limited to the
> >>> /et
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:10 -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> How exactly do you see this as a privacy issue? It's no different
> than manually visiting a website every 5 minutes. No PC specific ID
> has to be sent.
>
> The exact same connectivity check already happens in the installer
> too.
I'
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:11 -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> There are other ways to detect such cases without having the machine
> connect to an external service.
>
> Someone suggested on IRC to implement a doesnt-exist.ubuntu.com which is
> essentially a record that Canonical would guarantee neve
On 07/10/2012 03:06 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
>>> As for the actual change, it is limited to the
>>> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file; to which the following
>>
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> > > As for the actual change, it is limited to the
> > > /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file; to which
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> > As for the actual change, it is limited to the
> > /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file; to which the following
> > will be added:
> >
> > [connectivity]
> >
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 02:41:35 PM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At UDS some of us discussed the connectivity checking feature of
> NetworkManager, which landed not long before the Precise release.
>
> Connectivity checking would be a big benefit in helping with properly
> recognizi
Hi,
At UDS some of us discussed the connectivity checking feature of
NetworkManager, which landed not long before the Precise release.
Connectivity checking would be a big benefit in helping with properly
recognizing the cases where you're connected to wireless, but actually
behind a captive port
= Meeting Minutes =
[[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/10/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of
the meeting.]]
[[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]]
== Agenda ==
[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 10 Jul, 2012|20120710
Meeting Agenda]]
=== ARM Status ===
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