Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 07:16:58PM +0100, Philip Muskovac wrote: > Let me add that due to > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077116 > (automoc4 crashes in qemu-virtualized armhf) > Kubuntu doesn't have any *usable* armhf PPA builders right now as KDE > software > doesn't compile in qemu. FWIW,

Re: Ubuntu Developer Summits Now Online and Every Three Months

2013-03-02 Thread Iain Lane
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 04:53:58PM -0500, Michael Hall wrote: > 14:00 - 20:00 UTC actually Right - it got updated for a third time after I posted. I think the canonical location is http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/ -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debia

Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 10:34:25PM -0800, Tobin Davis wrote: > On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 16:52 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > Just using 'apt-get dist-upgrade' all the time, or something with closer > > semantics to that, is better. > > Oh, then you've fixed the issue where dist-upgrade removes packag

Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Tobin Davis
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 16:52 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:12:34PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > Long gone are the days where a `apt-get upgrade` has broken my system > > (knock on wood) and while I do inspect dist-upgrades a little more > > carefully, they are usually pre

Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 10:13:39PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2013, Colin Watson wrote: > > The latter option (publish immediately, symlink only after passing > > tests) would be simpler to implement and is probably the most plausible > > way to do this; after all if you don't publ

Re: Ubuntu Developer Summits Now Online and Every Three Months

2013-03-02 Thread Matthieu Baerts
Hello Allison, On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:54:39 -0800, Allison Randal wrote: > - There are a lot of people I really like, who I only see at UDS. I have > a very real sense of grief at "will I ever see so-and-so again?" It's > certainly not Canonical's job to pay for my social life. :) But, it's > impo

Re: Avoiding fragmentation with a rolling release

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Pitt
Loïc Minier [2013-03-01 12:10 +0100]: > I don't think we can make any commitment against all of Ubuntu or all of > main, but we could pick a subset by product and commit to some level of > API and ABI support for this subset. I still disagree. A few years ago we heavily promoted quickly+pygtk2 as

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Pitt
Colin Watson [2013-03-01 16:49 +]: > While I think monthly image releases make sense, I don't personally like > the notion of monthly updates at all FWIW, I fully agree, I was just contemplating how we would implement it in the easiest possible manner should we have to do it at all. I would re

Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:31:49 +0100, Rick Spencer wrote: = tl;dr = Ubuntu has an amazing opportunity in the next 7-8 months to deliver a Phone OS that will be widely adopted by users and industry while also putting into place the foundation for a truly converged OS. To succeed at this we w