Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:37 AM Stéphane Graber wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 09:33:24PM +, Robert Ancell wrote: > > It may be worth considering disabling i386 builds for individual packages > > to reduce the support costs. That way the core packages can build for >

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Stéphane Graber
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 09:33:24PM +, Robert Ancell wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 4:41 AM Steve Langasek > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 08:18:54AM +0100, Martin Wimpress wrote: > > > Excuse the top posting, only have a phone available. > > > > >

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 4:41 AM Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 08:18:54AM +0100, Martin Wimpress wrote: > > Excuse the top posting, only have a phone available. > > > Ubuntu MATE works with a few organisations around the world, one in my > own > >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Studio icons

2016-06-29 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi! On 2016-06-29 21:23, Jóhann Örn Geirdal wrote: > I also suggest to make the orange stronger! Not sure what you mean by "stronger", but in my terminology ubuntustudio orange is stronger, and the one you are using is brighter. The orange you are using is: #FF8D00 The orange ubuntustudio is

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Bryan, On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:02:02AM -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: > I'll work on creating a new public survey (and possibly a separate > partner/customer one). > Based on my previous one, my biggest concerns were for Lubuntu/Xubuntu. > With recent memory testing [1] it's even more true

Segfaults and Apport

2016-06-29 Thread Tyler Petersen
Hello everyone, I am having some issues collecting crashed from segfaults. I was told to come here after the ubuntu-server mailing list couldn't help me. I am seeing segfaults in mdadm constantly. We are running ubuntu-server 14.04 with 3.13.0-88-generic kernal and mdadm version

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Matthias Klose
On 29.06.2016 15:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and > laptops, but I would not be surprised if

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Matthias Klose
On 29.06.2016 15:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and > laptops, but I would not be surprised if

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Studio icons

2016-06-29 Thread Jóhann Örn Geirdal
I also suggest to make the orange stronger! On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Jóhann Örn Geirdal < johann.orn.geir...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here I have proposal to new icons in studio default apps. Have in mynd > that some Logos are better designed than others for each app. >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ghost mode ...

2016-06-29 Thread Jóhann Örn Geirdal
Here I have proposal to new icons in studio default apps. Have in mynd that some Logos are better designed than others for each app. http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0 On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:01 PM, C. F. Howlett wrote: > I know I have been very quiet of late. My

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Martin, On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 08:18:54AM +0100, Martin Wimpress wrote: > Excuse the top posting, only have a phone available. > Ubuntu MATE works with a few organisations around the world, one in my own > country, that refurbish donated computers, install them with Ubuntu MATE > and give

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Dale Amon
Let's also factor in flavors like Lubuntu that aim to use very minimal resources and that have the ability to run with ~ 300 MB of RAM on an i386 machine. While I understand modern applications are removing i386 support, we have a nice application base for Lubuntu for both LXDE and LXQt that

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 29.06.2016, 14:37 +0100 schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely > used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and > laptops, but I

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Simon Quigley
Greetings, Let's also factor in flavors like Lubuntu that aim to use very minimal resources and that have the ability to run with ~ 300 MB of RAM on an i386 machine. While I understand modern applications are removing i386 support, we have a nice application base for Lubuntu for both LXDE and

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and laptops, but I would not be surprised if 32-bit x86 is used in small 'embedded' environments.

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and laptops, but I would not be surprised if 32-bit x86 is used in small 'embedded' environments.

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ghost mode ...

2016-06-29 Thread C. F. Howlett
I know I have been very quiet of late. My Dell M3800 Developer Edition crashed. Getting support in a new country, Japan, has proven a bitoif a challenge. As my need was immediate, I was "forced" to acquire a new device. Now coming at you live from a Mac Air with Ubuntu in virtual box

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, Excuse the top posting, only have a phone available. Ubuntu MATE works with a few organisations around the world, one in my own country, that refurbish donated computers, install them with Ubuntu MATE and give (or sell them for next to nothing) to schools, disadvantaged families and people

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Seth Arnold wrote: > I propose that 16.04 LTS should be the last release with i386 support. > That way we don't leave anyone with a choice of (a) keep running > known-insecure 17.10 in 2018 or (b) figure out how to do a downgrade > back

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hi Dimitri, I'll work on creating a new public survey (and possibly a separate partner/customer one). Based on my previous one, my biggest concerns were for Lubuntu/Xubuntu. With recent memory testing [1] it's even more true for Lubuntu. (And if you only <512 MB of Ram - Docker, ZFS and system

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Seth Arnold
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 02:54:13PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Let me resurrect this thread. In the context of what we should be > doing in 18.04 and what to do between now and then. Thanks for raising this again; it'd be nice to have a plan in place before we wind up in a difficult

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-06-29 Thread Seth Arnold
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 02:54:13PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Let me resurrect this thread. In the context of what we should be > doing in 18.04 and what to do between now and then. Thanks for raising this again; it'd be nice to have a plan in place before we wind up in a difficult

Server team meeting minutes: 2016-06-28

2016-06-29 Thread Jon Grimm
== Minutes == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:02. No ACTION points === Yakkety Development === The discussion about "Yakkety Development" started at 16:03. nacc reported that the php cleanups