Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Hello, On 05/09/2018 04:29 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: >> here are some i386 to amd64 ratios for 18.04: >> Lubuntu cdimage - 0.87 > > And there is my concern. That says the vast majority of Lubuntu's users > are using i386. The question becomes whether or not they have to. There > has been

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Hello, On 05/09/2018 04:29 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: >> here are some i386 to amd64 ratios for 18.04: >> Lubuntu cdimage - 0.87 > > And there is my concern. That says the vast majority of Lubuntu's users > are using i386. The question becomes whether or not they have to. There > has been

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Simon Quigley
Hello, On 05/09/2018 07:03 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > I have never seen yours or Olivers name recently fixing i386 and autopkg test > failures. Should be easily to do for you, it's free, and there's no work > involved. I would agree with this point; although I rarely have had to fix i386-only

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Matthias Klose
On 10.05.2018 00:12, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > On 2018-05-09 14:54, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2018, 16:07 -0400 schrieb Bryan Quigley: >>> Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for >>> consumers to buy today from anything but computer part recycling

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
On 2018-05-09 14:54, Oliver Grawert wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2018, 16:07 -0400 schrieb Bryan Quigley: >> Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for >> consumers to buy today from anything but computer part recycling >> centers. > i386 is still very popular in the

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2018, 16:07 -0400 schrieb Bryan Quigley: > Hello, > > Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for > consumers to buy today from anything but computer part recycling > centers.  i386 is still very popular in the embedded and industrial world, so as

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Walter Lapchynski
On 2018-05-09 13:07, Bryan Quigley wrote: > Machines running i386 Ubuntu which are capable of running > amd64 Ubuntu are vulnerable to the critical Meltdown vulnerability > where they wouldn't be if they were running amd64. (Some actual i386 > hardware simply isn't vulnerable, but some is). This

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Nrbrtx
Dear Bryan and all! Please do not forget about some special hardware configurations such as Thin Clients. For example we use about 50 machines as Fat LTSP clients with Intel Celeron and Intel Atom. Their RAM is limited to 2Gb by hardware. They use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with MATE desktop environment.

Proposal: Let's drop i386

2018-05-09 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hello, Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for consumers to buy today from anything but computer part recycling centers. The last of these machines were manufactured over a decade ago, and support from an increasing number of upstream projects has ended. Ubuntu and

Re: missing shared libraries in libclang-5.0-dev?

2018-05-09 Thread Claudio
On 05/08/2018 04:45 PM, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > Hello, > > are you missing some -Lusr/lib/llvm-5.0 CFLAG? > > libraries should be all in their place > > G. > Buona sera Gianfranco, I link with -L/usr/lib/llvm-5.0/lib , but most of the shared libraries are not there, only the .a

Fwd: How can I help keep the Perl 6 "rakudo" package updated?

2018-05-09 Thread Prairie Nyx
I work with Perl 6 and we are hoping to help maintain the *latest* release of the Perl 6 compiler for the Linux community as much as possible... $ *sudo apt-get install rakudo* Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done rakudo is already the newest

Re: Vim unusable in 18.04, with upstream fix available

2018-05-09 Thread Thomas Grainger
This affects vim when anything displays an echo message. It's particularly bad when using ale, which relies heavily on this feature. On Wed, 9 May 2018, 11:28 Robie Basak, wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 10:53:02AM +0100, Thomas Grainger wrote: > >

Re: Vim unusable in 18.04, with upstream fix available

2018-05-09 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Thomas, On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 10:53:02AM +0100, Thomas Grainger wrote: > Currently vim in ubuntu 18.04 is unusable (with lint plugins like w0rp/ale > [1]), There's a path available upstream [2] I've opened an ubuntu bug [3] > but it seems to have stagnated. Thank you for filing the bug. It

Re: Ubiquity NG - was Re: ubiquity migrated to git

2018-05-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 08.05.2018, 18:31 -0500 schrieb Simon Quigley: > Would we be able to customize this in a way that's fit for desktop > users > rather than server users? A fork might need to happen there. i would assume if we have an HTML installer the code design could be set up in a properly

Re: Ubiquity NG - was Re: ubiquity migrated to git

2018-05-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 05/09/2018 08:33 AM, Didier Roche wrote: > Some of us on the desktop team are volunteering for that task. > > I personnally remember when I received those 2 separate live and > install CD from Ubuntu 4.10. I was already praising the number of > simplifications that Ubuntu added in the Debian

Re: RollerMouse double click regression from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS, how to debug?

2018-05-09 Thread Christoffer Holmstedt
2018-04-29 19:47 GMT+02:00 Christoffer Holmstedt < christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com>: > Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS as a fresh install. Everything > seems to work on my Intel NUC except for double click button on my "Contour > Design RollerMouse Free 2". I initially filed a bug report

Re: Ubiquity NG - was Re: ubiquity migrated to git

2018-05-09 Thread Didier Roche
Le 05/05/2018 à 08:15, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit : Thanks Dimitri for this! I'd like to start a thread on Ubiquity NG, and this seems like the best place and time to start :) First, a trip down memory lane. MDZ and I were shooting the moon on a Saturday afternoon in my apartment in London when