Re: Should we be reverting iptables to iptables-legacy for eoan?

2019-09-10 Thread Stéphane Graber
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:12 PM Jamie Strandboge wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > it turns out that lxd is broken by iptables now using the nft > > based stuff, because lxd is still using the legacy one from > > inside the snap. > > > > This provid

Re: Should we be reverting iptables to iptables-legacy for eoan?

2019-09-10 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Stéphane Graber wrote: > For LXD specifically, we think it would take us about 3 weeks of > engineering work to sort this in a way that can work on all > distributions, properly detecting and supporting: > - no nft present > - nft present but old iptables used > - nft prese

Re: Should we be reverting iptables to iptables-legacy for eoan?

2019-09-10 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > (but ISTR issues in Debian with > 4.19) Sorry, meant < 4.19 (ie, 4.17 and 4.18 istr still had some issues) -- Jamie Strandboge | http://www.canonical.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-de

Re: Should we be reverting iptables to iptables-legacy for eoan?

2019-09-10 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Hi folks, > > it turns out that lxd is broken by iptables now using the nft > based stuff, because lxd is still using the legacy one from > inside the snap. > > This provides a terrible experience because networking in lxd > is not working at all

Re: Should we be reverting iptables to iptables-legacy for eoan?

2019-09-10 Thread Stéphane Graber
Hi, I'm strongly on the revert camp. This change landed in the release pocket after Feature Freeze and effectively causes the majority of software in the Ubuntu archive to rely on compatibility wrappers to function. Those wrappers aren't perfect match for the tools they replace, causing failures o

Should we be reverting iptables to iptables-legacy for eoan?

2019-09-10 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Hi folks, it turns out that lxd is broken by iptables now using the nft based stuff, because lxd is still using the legacy one from inside the snap. This provides a terrible experience because networking in lxd is not working at all once you enable ufw. I'd suggest we increase the priority of ip