Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 2, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Conrad Knauer wrote: > ... >> I kinda think you need to be intrusive (hence the pop up window -or >> changed desktop background- instead of a small bubble) but leave the >> final decision to them. > > Pop-up windows just bri

Re: "Software Sources" design (Re: An update repository for a custom distro?)

2007-01-02 Thread Gianmarco Leone
> > 14. The final three checkboxes contradict each other in two ways. > > - If I uncheck "Check for updates automatically", and check > "Download updates automatically, but do not install them", > updates apparently both will and won't be downloaded. This can >

"Software Sources" design (Re: An update repository for a custom distro?)

2007-01-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 26, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > ... > Furthermore I would welcome feedback about the software-properties > dialog layout and the underlaying infrastructure. I am currently > working on making it more derviat friendly. > ... G

Re: Strategy for fixing Bug #1

2007-01-02 Thread George Farris
On Tue, 2006-26-12 at 12:48 -0600, Wes Morgan wrote: > Most of you have probably seen ESR's recently-slashdotted essay about > what Linux needs to do to conquer the desktop computing world by the > end of 2008 (and why we need to do it by then--hint: because of the > 32-to-64-bit transition). If no

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Francesco Fumanti
>Fumanti: >> There should however be a way for the user to get definitively rid of >> the update notification, even if he does not update! >> >> Consider for example a person using Ubuntu on a machine that is >> always offline and that offers to him a system that does all that he >> wants. As

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 02-01-2007 om 14:40 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Francesco Fumanti: > There should however be a way for the user to get definitively rid of > the update notification, even if he does not update! > > Consider for example a person using Ubuntu on a machine that is > always offline and t

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Alec Wright
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 18:48 +0100, Gaele Strootman wrote: > Now suppose person X has only 64 MB or RAM on this particular machine > (the minimum requirement for Warty). > > He: * Keeps Warty * Upgrades to the latest of Ubuntu which works on his hardware * Strips down his installation, removin

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Gaele Strootman
Alec Wright wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 16:32 +, Alex Jones wrote: > >> Something else that we need to remember... >> >> If we have a system with Warty on, and it's nagging its owner to >> upgrade, the only system it can upgrade to is Breezy, which itself might >> be out of support. If su

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Alec Wright
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 16:32 +, Alex Jones wrote: > > Something else that we need to remember... > > If we have a system with Warty on, and it's nagging its owner to > upgrade, the only system it can upgrade to is Breezy, which itself might > be out of support. If such a case arises, there's n

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Alex Jones
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 14:40 +0100, Francesco Fumanti wrote: > Hello, > > >Pop-up windows just bring back bad memories from MS Windows ;-) > > > >The bubble: > > > >- would be familiar to Ubuntu users > >- need not be tiny > >- should produce a new bubble each reboot (or every certain time unit, >

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Francesco Fumanti
Hello, >Pop-up windows just bring back bad memories from MS Windows ;-) > >The bubble: > >- would be familiar to Ubuntu users >- need not be tiny >- should produce a new bubble each reboot (or every certain time unit, >say once per day) thus being annoying enough to eventually get the >user to upg

Re: ubuntu-desktop metapackage - options?

2007-01-02 Thread Alec Wright
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 16:44 +0100, John Nilsson wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 11:25 +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: > > Best option you have is to create a patched alternative ubuntu-desktop > > package with your own packages. > > Why not just "depend" on virtual packages like "supported-mua" > "sup

Re: Notifying end-users when support is no more

2007-01-02 Thread Alec Wright
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 13:04 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > On 1/1/07, t u <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Today, I booted to Windows after 4-5 months. Because of my switch to > > Linux, I have been behaving like an average Windows user, not going out > > of my way to protect the OS. > > > > A pop

Re: Is Merge-O-Matic proprietary?

2007-01-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 12:38 +0200, Liraz Siri wrote: > Dear Scott, > Hello; I seem to have received this message twice. Was this an error? > I've read on the wiki that you have developed for Ubuntu an automated > tool, Merge-o-matic, which assists in merging new package versions from > Debian.