Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Phillip Susi
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > - Xfont, which provides font services (including selection and rendering) > through the X server. This is basically obsolete in favour of client-side > fonts. Why is this? Client side fonts are bad for several reasons: 1) You end up with the mess you point out, wher

Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:52:46AM -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > 3) Performance suffers. The X server is in the best position to render > fonts using any hardware acceleration provided by the video card, and > allows for those fonts to be shared by all applications, reducing > duplication and

Re: ReadyBoost Technology for Ubuntu and Linux

2007-05-21 Thread Oystein Viggen
* [Florian Zeitz] > Linux has been able to do this for ages, but it has been considered a > bad idea, because it wears the memory sticks flash. > In theory all it takes is: > 1. # mkswap /dev/sdX (where sdX is your memory stick) > 2. Edit your fstab to say: > /dev/sdX none swap sw,pri=2 0 0 > UUI

Re: ReadyBoost Technology for Ubuntu and Linux

2007-05-21 Thread Florian Zeitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oystein Viggen wrote: > * [Florian Zeitz] > >> Linux has been able to do this for ages, but it has been considered a >> bad idea, because it wears the memory sticks flash. >> In theory all it takes is: >> 1. # mkswap /dev/sdX (where sdX is your memor

Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Bjørn Ingmar Berg
I would like to add a little on this topic. On 19/05/07, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some confusion and dissatisfaction over the treatment of > fonts in Ubuntu for a some time now, and no common understanding of how to > improve the situation. I spent a little time

Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Phillip Susi
Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:52:46AM -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > >> 3) Performance suffers. The X server is in the best position to render >> fonts using any hardware acceleration provided by the video card, and >> allows for those fonts to be shared by all applications

Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:09:12PM -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > Matthew Garrett wrote: > >Measurements have shown that over pretty much any sort of common > >network, latency is more of a problem than bandwidth. Server-side fonts > >require multiple round-trips between the server and the client f

Re: ReadyBoost Technology for Ubuntu and Linux

2007-05-21 Thread Sven
Am Montag, den 21.05.2007, 19:32 +0200 schrieb Florian Zeitz: ... > I think it might be worth implementing if done properly (it seems using > ReadyBoost in it's current form in Vista can actually slow down the > system sometimes). The technique to slow down your computer and waste sticks for some

Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 15:09 -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > How does server side fonts require more round trips? It should amount > to a single message that specifies what font to use, what text to > render, and where. > Only after a detailed exchange to determine the character-set coverage of th

MOTU meeting this Friday, May 25th, 12:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting/Freenode

2007-05-21 Thread Daniel T. Chen
Hi all, Everyone, young and old, striped and solid, is invited to attend the next MOTU[0] meeting this Friday, May 25th, 12:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net. The agendum[1] has a tentative list of discussion topics. We are poised to discuss Universe protocol shortcomings, so whether

Re: ReadyBoost Technology for Ubuntu and Linux

2007-05-21 Thread Jonathan Jesse
On Monday 21 May 2007 13:32:46 Florian Zeitz wrote: > Oystein Viggen wrote: > > * [Florian Zeitz] > > > >> Linux has been able to do this for ages, but it has been considered a > >> bad idea, because it wears the memory sticks flash. > >> In theory all it takes is: > >> 1. # mkswap /dev/sdX (where

Re: Draining the font swamp

2007-05-21 Thread Ming Hua
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 01:13:56AM +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > > > - Whether we still need all these horrible bitmap fonts > > You mean the fonts available in the x-fonts* packages? I think the names are xfonts-*. Last time I checked, X server won't start without the "fixed" bitmap font f