Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default

2008-01-15 Thread Wouter Stomp
On Jan 15, 2008 12:33 AM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not consider features like inhibiting Gnome Power Manager from suspending while burning niche, that is something that should just work. That's rather a small bug and likely easy to fix, the software just need to

Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default

2008-01-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
(no need to copy me on reply I'm subscribed to the list) Le mardi 15 janvier 2008 à 10:52 +0100, Wouter Stomp a écrit : On Jan 15, 2008 12:33 AM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's rather a small bug and likely easy to fix, the software just need to send a signal over dbus

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:17:29PM -0500, Paul S wrote: Since kde-power-manager won't work and my usb keyboard sleep button doesn't work, I tried the Fn-Esc key combo on the laptop, which is the suspend key combo. The laptop suspended and resumed fine. Now, when I look at

Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default

2008-01-15 Thread Wouter Stomp
On Jan 15, 2008 12:39 PM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And next time you find a bug in brasero not fixed yet you will advice switching to yet another software? No of course not. This is only one of the many issues mentioned earlier. Have you read my first email? Besides that,

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Wouter Stomp
On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default install (ubuntu desktop package). Is their an application that has been added to help people organize home movies that I missed? To reduce duplication.

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default install (ubuntu desktop package). Is their an application that has been added to help people

Main inclusion for transmission, vinagre and cheese

2008-01-15 Thread Wouter Stomp
Hello, After it was decided that ubuntu would ship transmission and vinagre in hardy, these were directly moved from universe to main. Cheese is also new in main. I couldn't find main inclusion reports for these packages. Even though it is already decided to go with these programs, shouldn't

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul S
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 07:12 AM: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:17:29PM -0500, Paul S wrote: Since kde-power-manager won't work and my usb keyboard sleep button doesn't work, I tried the Fn-Esc key combo on the laptop, which is the suspend key combo. The laptop

Re: Main inclusion for transmission, vinagre and cheese

2008-01-15 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Di, 2008-01-15 at 14:13 +0100, Wouter Stomp wrote: Hello, After it was decided that ubuntu would ship transmission and vinagre in hardy, these were directly moved from universe to main. Cheese is also new in main. I couldn't find main inclusion reports for these packages. Even though

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 08:25:38AM -0500, Paul S wrote: but same result .. /var/log/pm-suspend.log does not change, suspend / resume work only from laptop Fn-Esc, not kde-power-manager menu or usb keyboard sleep button and no logger message in /var/log/messages. Do I need to reboot after

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Bryan Quigley
I outlined in my specification (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default) how gThumb has more functionality than F-Spot, is more efficient memory wise and takes up less space. Thanks, Bryan On Jan 15, 2008 8:19 AM, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:59

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Kevin Fries
resending to group, cuz I accidentally replied to poster On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 15:41 +, Scott James Remnant wrote: We feel the opposite, that f-spot has a better user experience. This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a compromise... Something much better than GThumb

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Milan
Kevin Fries wrote: This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/ Just a thought. They already package a DEB file and it is

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Kevin Fries
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:34 +0100, Milan wrote: Kevin Fries wrote: This argument has raged before. Has anyone thought of maybe a compromise... Something much better than GThumb (not hard) but not based on Mono. Maybe something like Blue Marine? http://bluemarine.tidalwave.it/

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:13AM -0500, Paul S wrote: This is not good. I had a kernel update so had to reboot anyway. Now I find that even Fn-Esc does not work. The only way to suspend is by konsole with sudo pm-suspend and it still works ok. The kde-power-manager menu suspend does

Re: gThumb

2008-01-15 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
Blue Marine is one program I've seen recommended for proper handling of EXIF data (that's the metadata I was trying to remember). I was looking for an alternative to F-Spot because of the poor EXIF-handling at the time. On Jan 15, 2008 1:56 PM, Kevin Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue,

which package owns the gnome quit button?

2008-01-15 Thread Matt Price
as mentioned earlier in this thread, suspend now works for me using pm-suspend, hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf, and shutting laptop lid (also works from the gdm login menu); but it fails if i try to quit from the gnome system menu or the gnome panel 'quit' button. i'm just trying to find

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matt Price
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:30 -0500, Paul S wrote: Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 01:59 PM: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:30:13AM -0500, Paul S wrote: This is not good. I had a kernel update so had to reboot anyway. Now I find that even Fn-Esc does not work. The only

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matt Price
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 23:02 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Though, having said that, I have found various issues - I've just uploaded a new pm-utils. It'd be nice to know if it worked for you. i'll give it a try myself soon as it hits the archive. matt -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL

Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking

2008-01-15 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: You should have to authenticate before modifying the network configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD, there is an Unlock button and selections remain greyed out until I unlock the application. If your system

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul S
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 05:42 PM: I can't see how this can happen - the same environment variables are set in both cases independent of the ordering. Is this repeatable? Yes, many times. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul S
Matthew Garrett said the following on 01/15/2008 06:02 PM: Though, having said that, I have found various issues - I've just uploaded a new pm-utils. It'd be nice to know if it worked for you. OK, I'm updating daily, so when it hits the repos I'll get it, unless you have an advance copy

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul S
Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: paul, how did you find out that the suspend button initiates quirks in the order you describe? I edited /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux and added a line to log the value of $QUIRKS when it was called, as

Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking

2008-01-15 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
(``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: You should have to authenticate before modifying the network configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD, there is an Unlock button and selections remain greyed out until I unlock the

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matt Price
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 19:18 -0500, Paul S wrote: Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: paul, how did you find out that the suspend button initiates quirks in the order you describe? I edited /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux and added a line

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Adilson Oliveira
If I suspend my laptop, I'll lose my mouse pointer. The mouse action is still there, but no mouse pointer, so I cant see what I'm clicking. In a side note, my notebook, an Asus G1 suspends and hibernates nicely with hardy. []s Adilson. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul S
Paul S said the following on 01/15/2008 07:18 PM: Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: take a look at /usr/share/hal/scripts/linux/hal-syspem-power-suspend-linux related scripts -- the $QUIRK variable is built up in these scripts progressively; all you would need to do is to

Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Mancusi
On Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: You should have to authenticate before modifying the network configuration. On my Hardy systems and a daily build of the Live CD,

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-15 Thread Matt Price
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:18 -0500, Paul S wrote: Paul S said the following on 01/15/2008 07:18 PM: Matt Price said the following on 01/15/2008 05:35 PM: ok, now I get it .. since these are based on not being false, they are set. and sudo lshal | grep quirk shows that they are not set to

Re: Hardy Alpha-3 networking

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Mancusi
On Jan 15, 2008 8:40 PM, Richard Mancusi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: On Monday 14 January 2008 17:14:29 Brian Murray wrote: You should have to authenticate before modifying the network