Re: libc borked

2008-03-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
hi Colin, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:55:47PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: The package is not at fault... The fault was to upload dpkg (2008-02-11 imho) with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistCompilerFlags this in mind. Setting those flags is not good without a bunch of

Re: libc borked

2008-03-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
Hi Colin, Colin Watson wrote: Fact, rebuilding the archive won't show any build failures, but running those rebuilt apps would have shown the evilness of this change. Rebuilding the archive against the output of the rebuild in progress would have shown it up very quickly; note that

Re: libc borked (and I stop testing)

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Vincenzo Ciancia a écrit : A possible idea to improve the situation is to have a regression tag, and to mark high priority all regressions. Say what you want, but this is *exactly* the behaviour that one would expect from any software distributor: things works, you break it, I tell you as soon

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I read what you explained in the bug report, and here are a few remarks. Clarifying the confusion around Preferences Administration is IMHO a good idea, since every base user seems to have problems with it. Naming them User Preferences and System Administration can be nice since it's not too

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) wrote : Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: I read what you explained in the bug report, and here are a few remarks. Clarifying the confusion around Preferences Administration is IMHO a good idea, since every base user seems to have problems with it. Naming

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Viktor Nagy
Hi! I think it's weird in itself that the configuration menu is as important as the applications or places menus are. In a well running system the user is basically never exposed to any settings, so (although this should be discussed with GNOME) I would rather opt for hiding the whole System menu

Re: What is terranova?

2008-03-14 Thread Soren Hansen
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 06:05:13PM +, Colin Watson wrote: by the way, why do I get this error: id: cannot find name for group ID 128 What are you doing when you encounter this error? Also, do you still see it? IIRC the live cd you used was from the day when libc6 was broken, so I

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) a écrit : I like the proposal. Moving from System | - Preferences ` - Administration to Configuration | - Your Preferences ` - System Administration Is every one okay with this one ? To me it's seems clearer: *Configuration* is more generic and

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum)
Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) a écrit : I like the proposal. Moving from System | - Preferences ` - Administration to Configuration | - Your Preferences ` - System Administration Is every one okay with this one ? To me it's seems clearer:

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Remco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe another configuration applet is needed: Storage. With things like indexing, backups, restore points, partition management and maybe even defragmentation. But Ubuntu is lacking a bit with backups, restore points and

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Onno Benschop
On 15/03/08 10:33, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: Well, there aren't any ext3 defrag tools anyway (ok maybe a few userspace ones, but that seems unusual), so we can avoid *that* bit of the argument, but there is NTFS support, and that definitely *does* need to be defragged. You don't mean formatted

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Remco
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there aren't any ext3 defrag tools anyway (ok maybe a few userspace ones, but that seems unusual), so we can avoid *that* bit of the argument, but there is NTFS support, and that definitely *does* need to be

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Remco
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering. Do any of you know how this is technically implemented and what it could possibly effect? -Cory K. I browsed a bit through my filesystem, and it seems like the menu consists of a bunch of files in

Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
LP Bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/202405 GNOME Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505340 Rhythmbox tries to load songs before finding out what directories to load from, and it can cause it to crash. It also produces a *lot* of import errors, which

Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM, A. Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LP Bug: https://bugs.edge.launchp.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/202405https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/202405

Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM, A. Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LP Bug: