Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Actually, it is not disappointing, it's just Dell as OEM shows us a way where we should be going to. Yes, we need to change release policy. We really need LTS every two years (and lot of small development releases between them), AND we need to overlook 'we don't release new software, just

Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Martin Owens
I find Dell's policy to be logical and fitting for what they do. But I would stress that part of what FOSS does better than all those other guys is evolution rather than large revision. I'd be a wary of breaking the 6 month release heartbeat cycle, it keeps everyone on their toes and allows for

Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Markus, Well, xorg is based on (or part of) X, which is about 20 years old. X was considered to be mature for some time, and severly behind a few years later. Do you really think there is something like a maturity which can be reached? If not after 20 years, how long does it take?

Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 21/05/2009 alle 14.16 +0200, Markus Hitter ha scritto: Well, xorg is based on (or part of) X, which is about 20 years old. X was considered to be mature for some time, and severly behind a few years later. Do you really think there is something like a maturity which

Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Evan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 21.05.2009 um 19:11 schrieb Martin Pitt: Shipping a new machine with hardy plus some extra Dell repo for new stuff is just fine for them, if that's how they see they can benefit their customers best. Arguably they