Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher Chan
Jan Claeys wrote: > Op woensdag 28-10-2009 om 07:36 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef > Christopher Chan: > >> Remotely administer a UDS server with a non-web-based, X-based GUI and >> therefore you need an Xserver on Windows. xrdp is probably better given >> that rdp is way faster than X or if we

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Jan Claeys
Op woensdag 28-10-2009 om 07:36 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef Christopher Chan: > Remotely administer a UDS server with a non-web-based, X-based GUI and > therefore you need an Xserver on Windows. xrdp is probably better given > that rdp is way faster than X or if we are going to install somethin

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
> In the first place, nothing they can do in the world of server configuration > is going to be that hazardous, and in the second, it's not and never has > been about whether it's wise to let them do that: THEY WILL DO IT.  So it's > in _everybody's_ best interest to give them the tools that will p

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Or give complex video recording and playback devices to consumers, or > provide tools for publishing your own > content, or advanced 3d modelling tools to amateurs.  All these things where > at one time considered to be the > realm of the professional only, but are now commonplace commodity items

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread Alexander H Deriziotis
> > If we don't have the manpower right now then perhaps we should consider > extending the beta or release candidate stage by a week in order to give > the manpower we have enough time to solve the most significant problems? > Once again, I'm no developer, but I'm quite confident a week wouldn't

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread Evan
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > Problem is quite simple - we don't have enough manpower to do QA. If we don't have the manpower right now then perhaps we should consider extending the beta or release candidate stage by a week in order to give the manpower we have eno

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Derek Broughton
Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> Oh feel free to code the thing then. Just don't ask mom and pop whether >>> they want their user account database in ldap or mysql or in passwd and >>> shared via NIS+. >> >> My whole point has been that it could be done, while you've been saying >> it couldn't. Having appa

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Problem is quite simple - we don't have enough manpower to do QA. Yes, user testing matters, but having a a) spec with basic features defined and b) small, but mobile team who can access to some ten of PCs and laptops with various configurations would be a next step. Cheers, Peter. 2009/10/28 Eva

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Tim Hawkins wrote: > Or give complex video recording and playback devices to consumers, or > provide tools for publishing your own > content, or advanced 3d modelling tools to amateurs. All these things > where at one time considered to be the > realm of the professional only, but are now comm

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread Evan
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM, George Farris wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:36 +, Alexander H Deriziotis wrote: > > > > Is there hope for this to be fixed in karmic? > > > > I'm no developer, but I think that's very unlikely. > > > > It seems to me your best bet would be to try a

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Hawkins
Or give complex video recording and playback devices to consumers, or provide tools for publishing your own content, or advanced 3d modelling tools to amateurs. All these things where at one time considered to be the realm of the professional only, but are now commonplace commodity items. I t

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread George Farris
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:36 +, Alexander H Deriziotis wrote: > > Is there hope for this to be fixed in karmic? > > I'm no developer, but I think that's very unlikely. > > It seems to me your best bet would be to try and avoid using the > software which breaks the idle-indicators, or

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Oh feel free to code the thing then. Just don't ask mom and pop whether >> they want their user account database in ldap or mysql or in passwd and >> shared via NIS+. > > My whole point has been that it could be done, while you've been saying it > couldn't.  Having apparently accepted that was w

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Derek Broughton
Christopher Chan wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> All the RFCs are defined as finite-state engines. There really is NO >> reason that a tool capable of making all the correct configurations need >> to be >> "predefined" and "fixed". It's 30 years since I did FSEs in university, >> but I'm p

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
>>> This has brought my focus back on the subject line for what we're all >>> replying to. I think it's been stated quite widely now that using a >>> GUI to configure Apache, SMTP, etc is probably unwise (RHEL seems to >>> disagree, but whatever), I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing >>> to

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Just because one circle of money-greedy idiots is willing to sacrifice >> their customer's security, reputation, and business does not mean that >> Ubuntu has to do the same. > > That's what we're suggesting - that Ubuntu don't do the same. I gathered that the OP wants to make an "Ubuntu Domain

Re: Apache Maven to be removed from Karmic?

2009-10-28 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Alvin Thompson wrote: > Currently, the Apache Maven package doesn't work due to the libplexus > packages (a Maven dependency) being synced from Debian but not Maven > itself.  According to the bug reports [1][2], this isn't going to be > fixed for Karmic and the Ma

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread Shentino
What are the chances of an update being pushed out for this later? I realize that there's a tight schedule and all but a post-release update would seem to be a nice compromise. The shipping company has already processed and received my shipit order though so it appears the barn door's been locked

Re: Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-28 Thread Alexander H Deriziotis
> Is there hope for this to be fixed in karmic? > I'm no developer, but I think that's very unlikely. It seems to me your best bet would be to try and avoid using the software which breaks the idle-indicators, or if that's too much hassle, just skip Karmic altogether and hope it's fixed in Lucid.