Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Robbie Williamson rob...@ubuntu.com wrote: Is it a bug that we don't automatically enable and password protect your screensaver in Ubuntu? Maybe. or that we don't automatically encrypt all your data? Maybe. Perhaps you will get farther opening a bug with

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 06.01.2010 um 11:36 schrieb Patrick Freundt: ... but maybe Gentoo and other source based distributions are going to have a revival and Canonical is discovered as the new Microsoft. Patrick, just a week ago you defended Ubuntu so much and now you play with going away? Doesn't match my

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: What to do now? Battle again, how we used to battle proprietary software once. Because many people had good reasons to dislike proprietary software. And whats happening here is that companies mix Free Software with the old,

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-01-06 11:36:09 +0100, Patrick Freundt wrote: We dont talk about an unpleasant background color or desired or unwanted functionality. We talk about a default configuration of a browser that goes online to download data without my consent. And the very least to expect is that its

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de wrote: You know that your Ubuntu systems also checks for package updates automatically? So it goes online without your consent too. As I said before, firefox is just one exaple of multiple topics. And I don't want a dialog

why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
To give those who care a bit more background information why I seem to act like a super troll within the thread proper procedure regarding bug reports: In the appartment next door a 21 year old girl lives with her mom. Her dad seems to be working for some online university and has influence on

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Shentino
I've sorta had this dance with a problem in mc that, due to improper perms on cons.saver, prevented the usage of C-o to flop the screen in and out. I uploaded a patch that highlighted the problem and I thought that someone would eventually get around to testing it. Unfortunately, it recently got

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Daniel Chen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Shentino shent...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it recently got the wave-off as now it no longer builds under Lucid and I'm being asked to test a new upstream version, when I know that I uploaded 3:4.7.0-1ubuntu1 last night, so if you're willing to respin your

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Daniel Chen seven.st...@gmail.com wrote: your patch Right, I often forget about that ... You should not only rant at people like Richard Stallman you also need to provide patches like him. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Daniel Chen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Patrick Freundt patrick.freu...@googlemail.com wrote: You should not only rant at people like Richard Stallman you also need to provide patches like him. I'll ask because the phrasing is ambiguous, and I can't tell whether my cynicism radar is errant. Are you

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Daniel Chen seven.st...@gmail.com wrote: I'll ask because the phrasing is ambiguous, and I can't tell whether my cynicism radar is errant. Pure self irony from my side, as I was looking over the thread that I started, realizing that I often forgot about the

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Patrick Freundt patrick.freu...@googlemail.com wrote: And on another note - When your Ubuntu Karmic sits with you, Firefox and Google Mail and somebody special is able to send your X Server a SIGTERM, then I am wondering what this hint is all about. Am I on the

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
Somebody reminded me in a nice way not long ago, that no matter what happens ... I should do my best to respect das Grundrecht auf körperliche Unversehrtheit. And I am going to do that. But when nothing is supposed to influence the routing between me and my ISP, no cracked router, no script

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Richard JOHNSON
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:30:18PM +0100, Patrick Freundt wrote: [...] But when nothing is supposed to influence the routing between me and my ISP, no cracked router, no script kiddies on IRC who know my IP, and only me and Google's Mail sit together, then how the heck is that 21 year old girl

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Richard JOHNSON nixter...@ubuntu.com wrote: Until she hacks the Gibson, she isn't elite enough to ruin the romance you share with Google. That depends, kind sir. First of all, the 21 year old girl is a girl. Her limited skills are not the point. Its most likely

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
And since I was asked: Cracked wireless connection and ethereal/wireshark? Have you tried posting (etc.) via a VPN or SSH tunnel? Its a wired connection to german Telekom / T-Online. No router is involved that could have been cracked. Its a clean setup of Ubuntu Karmic, connected via PPPoe.

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Patrick Freundt patrick.freu...@googlemail.com wrote: The career of this daddy poo is obviously so settled that he does not care at all whether I am able to gain proof for whats going on. And it seems to make that 21 year old chocolate girl all proud to have

Re: why privacy and security matters

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
Can you please take it somewhere else? Thanks for asking, but I am not sure whether I can or can not. The police officer said I could possibly have a chit chat with my psychiatrist. But I am really not sure. I have this strange feeling that I find a solution to my problem right here. --

so sorry

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick Freundt
Maybe Ubuntu (and the Internet as a whole) is not my thing. But who am I to blame you guys for that. I am sorry for all the inconvenience that I might have caused. *playing Annett Louisan - Das Spiel ... only for you!* -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: proper procedure regarding bug reports

2010-01-06 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 07:47 -0800 schrieb Shentino: I've sorta had this dance with a problem in mc that, due to improper perms on cons.saver, prevented the usage of C-o to flop the screen in and out. I uploaded a patch that highlighted the problem and I thought that someone would

Re: so sorry

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick H.
Isamar M Given that comment, can he customize a distro? Patrick F What would you recommend to make ubuntu, or just the internet alone as a whole, a better experience. What did you want to do with ubuntu? Have you tried Ubuntu Netbook remix? It's a very different user experience then ubuntu

Re: so sorry

2010-01-06 Thread Isamar Maia
2010/1/7 Patrick H. patrick.harzh...@gmail.com: Isamar M Given that comment, can he customize a distro? Don't know. If not possible, hire someone or ask to a neighbor... Isn't here a devel list ? :-) Patrick F What would you recommend to make ubuntu, or just the internet alone as a