Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 09:18:37PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > I'm sure that they felt that forcing you to keep both the passphrase AND > the crypto key yourself was simply not a commercially viable solution > for the general public. It would be nice if they offered an option > (with appropriate ca

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 01:41 +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > I do not know the details, so I will ask: is it the case that: All we can know for sure is the way the system is DOCUMENTED to work, as I said in my other email. > * The user crypto key is generated on the > the user machine. Ye

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 18:33 -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: > > The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. > > And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's > > computer. The server never gets i

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
Six statements rather... I added the other two initial ones as I thought more deeply on it. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Graydon
On 04/05/2012 01:33 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's computer. The server never gets it. The only thing that

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
I would not be so harsh on these companies. They are very quietly *told* that they will comply with the will of certain agencies. Or else. And they are not allowed to tell their customers. Or else... But they are trying to sell security. So what are they going to do? They are going to do a doubleth

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: > The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. > And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's > computer. The server never gets it. The only thing that ever lands on the > server is an encrypted

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 06:42:23PM -0400, Sam Smith wrote: > > The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. > And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's > computer. The server never gets it. The only thing that ever lands on the > server

Re: [rjo...@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]

2012-04-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:13:26PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > Here's another nasty bug and some pointers from the developers > to how to fix it. Thanks. I've requested a sync of febootstrap from unstable to fix this. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] --

RE: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Sam Smith
The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's computer. The server never gets it. The only thing that ever lands on the server is an encrypted blob. What this means is that the user doesn't have

[rjo...@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
Here's another nasty bug and some pointers from the developers to how to fix it. - Forwarded message from "Richard W.M. Jones" - Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 20:16:06 +0100 From: "Richard W.M. Jones" To: Dale Amon Cc: libvirt-us...@redhat.com, ebl...@redhat.com, libgues...@redhat.com Subject:

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:32:33AM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > Encrypting the encryption key has nothing to do with security, you I agree. > dedicated crypto hardware. Then you have to re-upload all that data > again, wasting their bandwidth

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 07:55:09PM -0400, Sam Smith wrote: >> >> I use "SpiderOak" because it offers client-side encryption. It provides the >> security & privacy I seek. >> >> I'd prefer to use Ubuntu One, but until it supports client-side AES 2

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 07:55:09PM -0400, Sam Smith wrote: > > I use "SpiderOak" because it offers client-side encryption. It provides the > security & privacy I seek. > > I'd prefer to use Ubuntu One, but until it supports client-side AES 256-bit > encryption & additionally encrypts the decryp

Re: Precise libapt-pkg update problem

2012-04-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 09:39:55PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > I'm going to try to resolve this manually, but > I thought it might perhaps be of interest > to someone here. > > Unpacking libapt-pkg4.12:i386 (from > .../libapt-pkg4.12_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu6_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /va