Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Milan
Hi all! On home computers, people often want to log in without password at all. This should be possible, and easy to configure. The problem is, you need a password to connect using ssh, to have sudo rights, to protect others from setting a new password... I suggest to allow to log in without typi

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi Milan, Milan [2007-02-22 10:44 +0100]: > Currently, I have to hack /etc/pam.d and /etc/shadow to allow my > parents to login without password: this is a real lack compared to > Windows ! This should not be necessary at all. gdm's configuration program already offers the option of automatic log

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread David Prieto
> This should not be necessary at all. gdm's configuration program > already offers the option of automatic login But that would only be useful in his case: -if he actually wants his parents to automatically log in every time the computer is booted, which might not be the case. -if his parents h

Fwd: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Although GDM can do autologin, it will only work for one user, and not every user one would wish to make this work. On 2/22/07, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Milan [2007-02-22 10:44 +0100]: > > Currently, I have to hack /etc/pam.d and /etc/shadow to allow my > > parents to

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Milan
Martin wrote: > This should not be necessary at all. gdm's configuration program > already offers the option of automatic login (which should stay off by > default, of course). If this does not work, can you please file a bug > against gdm? This is working fine. But it was thinking of a home comput

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz
Milan a écrit : > Martin wrote: >> This should not be necessary at all. gdm's configuration program >> already offers the option of automatic login (which should stay off by >> default, of course). If this does not work, can you please file a bug >> against gdm? > This is working fine. But it was t

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2007-22-02 at 14:46 +0100, Milan wrote: > Martin wrote: > > This should not be necessary at all. gdm's configuration program > > already offers the option of automatic login (which should stay off by > > default, of course). If this does not work, can you please file a bug > > against gdm?

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On do, 2007-02-22 at 15:54 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > Should we do the same mistakes as in windows ? I think having a > password is better cause we should teach people about security > measures. and that gdm password thing's a pretty simple thing but > means a lot. True, but I see at lea

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel Robitaille
On 2/22/07, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On do, 2007-02-22 at 15:54 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: > > Should we do the same mistakes as in windows ? I think having a > > password is better cause we should teach people about security > > measures. and that gdm password thing's a prett

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On do, 2007-02-22 at 08:29 -0800, Daniel Robitaille wrote: > But kids can learn pretty easily about username/password And by the > time they know how to read and type my experience is that they will > use the password method rather easily. I known that my oldest son, > once I created his first o

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On do, 2007-02-22 at 08:06 -0800, George Farris wrote: > I say forget it. Users should be trained into thinking about > security. Having a password is a small price to pay. One day they > will inadvertently install openssh-server and then, lookout. The PermitEmptyPasswords setting for sshd is

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Anthony Yarusso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Claeys wrote: > On do, 2007-02-22 at 15:54 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >> Should we do the same mistakes as in windows ? I think having a >> password is better cause we should teach people about security >> measures. and that gdm password thi

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Michael R. Head
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 08:29 -0800, Daniel Robitaille wrote: > So the kids just had to turn on the computer, and > within a minute they were in their user session without any > interactions. But what happens if they press a key on the keyboard by accident? I think gdm will just wait there for th

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread t u
Anthony Yarusso wrote: > Jan Claeys wrote: >> On do, 2007-02-22 at 15:54 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: >>> Should we do the same mistakes as in windows ? I think having a >>> password is better cause we should teach people about security >>> measures. and that gdm password thing's a pretty simp

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel Robitaille
On 2/22/07, Michael R. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 08:29 -0800, Daniel Robitaille wrote: > > So the kids just had to turn on the computer, and > > within a minute they were in their user session without any > > interactions. > > But what happens if they press a key on t

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Jan Claeys
On do, 2007-02-22 at 13:40 -0500, Anthony Yarusso wrote: > Jan Claeys wrote: > > True, but I see at least one exception: young children don't know how to > > enter a username & password. OTOH they don't need administrator (sudo) > > rights of course... > > > I disagree. First, ime children seem t

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-22 Thread Anthony Yarusso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Claeys wrote: > On do, 2007-02-22 at 13:40 -0500, Anthony Yarusso wrote: >> Jan Claeys wrote: >>> True, but I see at least one exception: young children don't know how to >>> enter a username & password. OTOH they don't need administrator (sudo) >

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-23 Thread Milan
Hey, you guys have a geek way of thinking I didn't expected to encounter on an Ubuntu mailing list ! I'm not talking about five-year-old children's ability to type in a password, nor of the need of their parents to control them. I'm talking of making life easier to users who want to use this fe

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-23 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz
Milan a écrit : > Hey, you guys have a geek way of thinking I didn't expected to encounter > on an Ubuntu mailing list ! I'm not talking about five-year-old > children's ability to type in a password, nor of the need of their > parents to control them. I'm talking of making life easier to users

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-23 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz
> Moreover, this feature won't bring down security at all: you still need > to enter your password to use gksudo, or ssh... This is only an old > Unix-geek reflex putting down Windows about its lacks. But this is not a > lack, even Windows has many! Linux power is that you can enable almost > a

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-23 Thread Milan
I'm not tying to make a troll in any way, and I'm sorry if this subject is fulling the list with useless arguments. And I don't think neither that we should compare Linux to Windows: what I propose is really far from ActiveX, and I will castigate anyone intending to create this for Linux. But

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-23 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz
Milan a écrit : > I think this kind of use is a main target for Ubuntu, and using no > password at all should be proposed to the user when he creates an account. that was in your message date 22.02.2007 14:46 on my computer. So I understood *no password at all* . Now that you're saying clearly t

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-23 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
I interely support Milan idea. Please stop pulling the topic elsewhere. On 2/23/07, Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not tying to make a troll in any way, and I'm sorry if this subject > is fulling the list with useless arguments. And I don't think neither > that we should compare Linux to W

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-26 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Friday 23 February 2007 15:16, Milan wrote: > But you're mistaking on my proposal. I just ask to allow *GDM* to skip > password check, just like it *currently does* with autologin. I'm all for it, even more so because KDM has an option for exactly this feature. Cheers, Florian -- Flo

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Fedyk
Florian Hackenberger wrote: > On Friday 23 February 2007 15:16, Milan wrote: >> But you're mistaking on my proposal. I just ask to allow *GDM* to skip >> password check, just like it *currently does* with autologin. > I'm all for it, even more so because KDM has an option for exactly this > featur

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-26 Thread Jan Claeys
On vr, 2007-02-23 at 11:37 +0100, Milan wrote: > Hey, you guys have a geek way of thinking I didn't expected to encounter > on an Ubuntu mailing list ! I'm not talking about five-year-old > children's ability to type in a password, nor of the need of their > parents to control them. I'm talking

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-27 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Monday 26 February 2007 22:33, Mike Fedyk wrote: > So does GDM. No, it doesn't. As the OP tried to point out, there is a semantic difference between autologin and password-less login. Autologin automatically logs one specific user into the system, while password-less login requires the user to

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Reitblatt
On 2/27/07, Florian Hackenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 26 February 2007 22:33, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > So does GDM. > No, it doesn't. As the OP tried to point out, there is a semantic difference > between autologin and password-less login. Autologin automatically logs one > specific

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-02-28 Thread Mike Fedyk
Jan Claeys wrote: > On vr, 2007-02-23 at 11:37 +0100, Milan wrote: >> The question is, do we want to discourage people from switching to >> Linux, and do we want Ubuntu to be the best distribution for home >> end-users? > > I don't believe removing security measures at the same time as Microsoft >

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-03-05 Thread Milan
So, should I open a feature request ? On launchpad or on gnome.org ? The question to think about is pam-keyring and passwordless login: the user is likely to have to type in is keyring password anyway. Milan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify set

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
On lun, 2007-03-05 at 10:41 +0100, Milan wrote: > So, should I open a feature request ? On launchpad or on gnome.org ? Rather on gnome.org, no reason for the feature to be distribution specific. Sebastien Bacher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modi

Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM

2007-03-05 Thread Milan
Done : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414862 Milan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss