Re: Evolution in Ubuntu (was: Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS)

2011-01-20 Thread Tony Atkinson
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:16 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > And now I've heard (not officially) that Natty, which (as I understand > it) will contain Gnome 3 as the base version, will ship with Evolution > 2.32!! Natty won't be based on Gnome3 according to this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-

Evolution in Ubuntu (was: Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS)

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Smith
Last year I expressed concern over the fact that Ubuntu was leaving behind Evolution in Lucid (that is, shipping Gnome 2.30 but leaving Evolution alone back at 2.28). The explanation at that time was that the change from Evo 2.28 to 2.30 involved a lot of significant rework (which it did) and that

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-10 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Jan Claeys wrote: > How will you revert all people's configuration & data (e.g. files > created with an incompatible new file format)? Where the upgrade to the new format is done by dpkg, we could add downgrade scripts as well as upgrade scripts. As for new files,

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-10 Thread Brett
> Ubuntu has been bitten by upgrading to new versions which were rewritten > in the past and we have learnt, the decision has been made to stay on a > version which is not perfect but that we know about rather running to > use a rewrite in the risk of being stucked with something not ready > qualit

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-09 Thread Jan Claeys
Op woensdag 10-03-2010 om 02:50 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef John McCabe-Dansted: > Is is what is unsupported. I understand that deb say how to upgrade > you configuration etc. to the new versions, but don't know how to > downgrade. > > I understand that supporting downgrade could double the work

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-09 Thread Erik Andersen
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:28, Patrick Goetz wrote: >> Subject:  Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS >> From:    Sebastien Bacher >> Date:    Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:02:32 +0100 >> To:      ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com >> > >> Ubuntu has been bit

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-09 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Patrick Goetz wrote: > Journal, lwn.net, and breathless reviews across the blogosphere.  Users > start clamoring for the features of gumptacular 2.0, not knowing how > they ever lived without them.  So, > >    apt-get install gumptacular/ubuntu-experimental Apt-ge

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-09 Thread Patrick Goetz
> Subject: Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS > From:Sebastien Bacher > Date:Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:02:32 +0100 > To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > > Ubuntu has been bitten by upgrading to new versions which were rewritten > in the past and we have

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 23:02 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: There are plenty of stability problems with 2.28; I subscribe to the Evo mailing lists and people are constantly posting about this or that database corruption, missing mail, etc. etc. (note this is with standard IMAP or POP support, not E

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 08:41 -0500, Paul Smith a écrit : > However, I don't see any problems and I've been building Evo 2.29.x > from the latest git source every few days and using it "in anger" on > all of my systems for daily email (and I get/send a LOT of email), > with both IMAP and MAPI, f

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-05 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 17:17 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > The current version of evolution is not broken and probably not over > an unstable version which got some much rewrital and so few testing. Sorry, but that's wrong: 2.28 is unquestionably broken. To quote you, "Glad that it works for yo

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 08:41 -0500, Paul Smith a écrit : > Does Ubuntu really want to get stuck with broken > Evo for the entirety of the LTS? Hi, The current version of evolution is not broken and probably not over an unstable version which got some much rewrital and so few testing. Glad th

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-05 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/3/5 Paul Smith : > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:23 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: >> Well, as far as I have heard from developers, Staying with Evolution >> 2.28 decision was made because 2.30 will have too big sweeping >> changes, like D-BUS instead of Bonobo, etc. So it is too much for LTS. > >

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-05 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:23 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > Well, as far as I have heard from developers, Staying with Evolution > 2.28 decision was made because 2.30 will have too big sweeping > changes, like D-BUS instead of Bonobo, etc. So it is too much for LTS. What?!?! Is that really true

Re: Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-05 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/3/5 Thomas ML Novin : > Simple question: Won't Evolution 2.29/30 be in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? > DebianImportFreeze, UI Freeze are in effect but still only Evolution > 2.28.3? > > I find it strange that the default mailer in Ubuntu lags behind. Well, as far as I have heard from developers, Staying

Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

2010-03-05 Thread Thomas ML Novin
Simple question: Won't Evolution 2.29/30 be in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? DebianImportFreeze, UI Freeze are in effect but still only Evolution 2.28.3? I find it strange that the default mailer in Ubuntu lags behind. Rgds//Thomas N -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu