Re: Firestarter

2010-09-01 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:13:55PM -0700, Jim Kielman wrote: ..snip... > > If you are using Firestarter to watch the firewall logs, you're > doing it wrong. Firestarter needs to be run as root which is a > security risk, it is only meant /var/log/aut

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-31 Thread Jim Kielman
ked up to the router which has it's own firewall I > routinely see a large number of blocked access attempts, quite a few > from China, listed on Firestarter's events tab. I'll use a firewall if > it's all the same to you. > > If you are using Firestarter to watch

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 05:09:55PM -0700, Jim Kielman wrote: > > are more then adequate for the average user that is running any > services. To answer your questions as to why they have to use a > firewall, they don't, it's just something they did when they ran > Windows, and they can't believe

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread Jim Kielman
On 10-08-31 08:21 AM, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 07:59 -0700, George Farris wrote: >> >> Gufw is in no way suitable for a new user. They have no idea what >> iptables are or rules for that matter. >> >> George > > What is the actual use case for a simple and graphical firewa

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread George Farris
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 17:21 +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 07:59 -0700, George Farris wrote: > > > > Gufw is in no way suitable for a new user. They have no idea what > > iptables are or rules for that matter. > > > > George > > What is the actual use case for a simple

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread Krzysztof Klimonda
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 07:59 -0700, George Farris wrote: > > Gufw is in no way suitable for a new user. They have no idea what > iptables are or rules for that matter. > > George What is the actual use case for a simple and graphical firewall? Why do people who have no idea what iptables or rule

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread George Farris
2010 08:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > > I was under the impression that Firestarter was no longer being > > > > > maintained/developed. Wrong? > > > > > > > > Lastest stable, 1.0.3, was released in 2005, so I don't think so. > &

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread Jamie Strandboge
2010 08:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > > I was under the impression that Firestarter was no longer being > > > > > maintained/developed. Wrong? > > > > > > > > Lastest stable, 1.0.3, was released in 2005, so I don't think so. > &

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-31 Thread Usama Akkad
Hi, I think firestarter is the best of it's kind. I've been using it for three years and it always dowse the job. we better think in removing UFW than firestarter On 2010 8 31 00:59, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: On Monday, August 30, 2010 05:49:48 pm George Farris wrote: > O

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, August 30, 2010 05:49:48 pm George Farris wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 14:20 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 09:22:40PM -0400, Greg Bair wrote: > > > On 08/28/2010 08:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > I was under the impr

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-30 Thread George Farris
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 14:20 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 09:22:40PM -0400, Greg Bair wrote: > > On 08/28/2010 08:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > > > I was under the impression that Firestarter was no longer being > &

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-30 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 09:22:40PM -0400, Greg Bair wrote: > On 08/28/2010 08:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > I was under the impression that Firestarter was no longer being > > maintained/developed. Wrong? > > > > > Lastest stable, 1.0.3, was release

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-30 Thread George Farris
st as easy to install gufw, as it is to install firestarter. > > > > Have you actually looked at Gufw compared to Firestarter? It's totally > not useful for a beginning user. Yes Gufw is great once you know things > about firewalls but to say it can replace Firestarter is wa

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-30 Thread George Farris
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:10 -0700, Jim Kielman wrote: > There is a tool for setting firewall rules installed by default called > ufw, for those that need a graphical tool to set firewall rules, it's > just as easy to install gufw, as it is to install firestarter. > Have you a

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-30 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:10 -0700, Jim Kielman wrote: > With the included tool for setting the firewall all you have to do is > enable the default rule set and it's done. The default rule set blocks > almost everything, and in Windows terms makes the users system seemed > to be stealthed. All y

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-30 Thread Daniel Hollocher
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Jim Kielman wrote: > There is a tool for setting firewall rules installed by default called > ufw, for those that need a graphical tool to set firewall rules, it's > just as easy to install gufw, as it is to install firestarter. > > The bigge

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 05:10:38 pm Jim Kielman wrote: > There is a tool for setting firewall rules installed by default called > ufw, for those that need a graphical tool to set firewall rules, it's > just as easy to install gufw, as it is to install firestarter. > > Th

Firestarter

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Kielman
There is a tool for setting firewall rules installed by default called ufw, for those that need a graphical tool to set firewall rules, it's just as easy to install gufw, as it is to install firestarter. The biggest problem is one of education, most users assume that firestarter is th

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-29 Thread Greg Bair
On 08/29/2010 10:27 AM, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 11:42 +0200, Davyd McColl wrote: >> I think perhaps we have different views on what constitutes >> "maintenance". As libraries that Firestarter depends on progress, >> someone will need to ma

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-29 Thread Krzysztof Klimonda
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 11:42 +0200, Davyd McColl wrote: > I think perhaps we have different views on what constitutes > "maintenance". As libraries that Firestarter depends on progress, > someone will need to maintain the package to make sure that it > installs correctly and w

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-29 Thread Davyd McColl
e have different views on what constitutes "maintenance". As libraries that Firestarter depends on progress, someone will need to maintain the package to make sure that it installs correctly and works correctly. That's what "maintenance" on a stable package means. Yes, it works

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-28 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi, Question: Does it work? If the answer is yes, then it does not need *maintaining **whilst * https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW is also supported, there seems no need to drop an application just because it has reached maturity and needs no further 'tweaking' - Just my 2 cents worth. * * ***

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-28 Thread Greg Bair
gt;> longer >> the new kid on the block. It works nicely. It's being maintained. What else >> could a person want? > > I was under the impression that Firestarter was no longer being > maintained/developed. Wrong? > > Lastest stable, 1.0.3, was released in 20

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
aintained. What else > could a person want? I was under the impression that Firestarter was no longer being maintained/developed. Wrong? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" signature.asc Description: Digital signatu

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-28 Thread Davyd McColl
I actually want to thank the OP for mentioning this project. It's an easy-to-use, intuitive firewall manager for the masses that I didn't know about. Personally, I hack together my own scripts using iptables directly -- but not everyone either can or wants to do this. I'll be recommending this on

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Jones
I'm sure there's a few selected people out there among the Ubuntu community who still use Firestarter. And as it has been updated for the Maverick release, there's no real reason/purpose to be discussing a package removal from the repos. Regards -- Chris Jones -- Ubunt

Re: firestarter

2010-08-26 Thread Micah Gersten
On 08/26/2010 10:18 PM, Jim Kielman wrote: > Opps, I sent this earlier from the wrong email address. > > The only update, was to make it so that it will build with new gtk > libraries, and other changes that allow it to work with maverick. > Firestarter has served well over it&

firestarter

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Kielman
Opps, I sent this earlier from the wrong email address. The only update, was to make it so that it will build with new gtk libraries, and other changes that allow it to work with maverick. Firestarter has served well over it's lifetime, but with nobody actually maintaining the program,

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-26 Thread Micah Gersten
Yes, but it was updated for Maverick. Perhaps and SRU for Lucid is necessary? On 08/26/2010 07:01 AM, Kurt Kraut wrote: > As far as I tested, it doesn't work at all on Lucid. > > > Kurt Kraut > > 2010/8/26 Cosme Domínguez Díaz > > > But it works or no? > >

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-26 Thread Kurt Kraut
As far as I tested, it doesn't work at all on Lucid. Kurt Kraut 2010/8/26 Cosme Domínguez Díaz > But it works or no? > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-26 Thread Cosme Domínguez Díaz
But it works or no? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Firestarter

2010-08-25 Thread Jim Kielman
When is firestarter going to be removed from the repos, it hasn't been updated since 2005. It's about time the old program was laid to rest. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailma