Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Dimitri John Ledkov schreef op 30-06-2016 20:14: My current hunch is like this at the moment: - 18.04 to still have an i386 port in the archive, and be upgradable to. - 18.04 not having desktop/server install media (however maybe even releases before that) - 18.04 has "ubuntu-desktop" but

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Charl Wentzel wrote: > > > On 01/07/2016 21:05, Bryan Quigley wrote: > > Can you elaborate on what specific systems you are purchasing today > that use 32-bit x86 (I believe the only vendors ever were AMD, Intel > and VIA)? > > The

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On 01/07/2016 21:05, Bryan Quigley wrote: Can you elaborate on what specific systems you are purchasing today that use 32-bit x86 (I believe the only vendors ever were AMD, Intel and VIA)? The chipsets are mostly AMD and Intel as you've stated. The vendor I purchase from mostly is iEi. They

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

> I use Ubuntu as my main platform on embedded system. There are still many > viable 32-bit platforms that are being manufactured. Can you elaborate on what specific systems you are purchasing today that use 32-bit x86 (I believe the only vendors ever were AMD, Intel and VIA)? Also what is

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On 29/06/2016 15:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and laptops, but I would not be surprised if 32-bit

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

OK, I'm reassured that we're thinking about this appropriately, thanks Dimitri & friends. Mark -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Hello Mark, On 29 June 2016 at 14:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and >

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Hello, On 28 June 2016 at 21:08, Seth Arnold wrote: >> 18.04 LTS: >> * continue to provide i386 port to run legacy applications on amd64 >> * stop producing i386 d-i / netboot installer >> * stop producing i386 kernel >> * stop producing i386 cloud-images >> * stop

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On 29.06.2016 15:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and > laptops, but I would not be surprised if

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Let's also factor in flavors like Lubuntu that aim to use very minimal resources and that have the ability to run with ~ 300 MB of RAM on an i386 machine. While I understand modern applications are removing i386 support, we have a nice application base for Lubuntu for both LXDE and LXQt that

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Greetings, Let's also factor in flavors like Lubuntu that aim to use very minimal resources and that have the ability to run with ~ 300 MB of RAM on an i386 machine. While I understand modern applications are removing i386 support, we have a nice application base for Lubuntu for both LXDE and

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and laptops, but I would not be surprised if 32-bit x86 is used in small 'embedded' environments.

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 02:54:13PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Let me resurrect this thread. In the context of what we should be > doing in 18.04 and what to do between now and then. Thanks for raising this again; it'd be nice to have a plan in place before we wind up in a difficult

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Survey is done. Please only fill this out if you are running a i386 Ubuntu (any flavor Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Server, Cloud, etc). I'm going to wait for a few a bit before posting it on news sites to see if I made any mistakes in the survey. Let me know if anything is amiss.

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Hi Dimitri, I'll work on creating a new public survey (and possibly a separate partner/customer one). Based on my previous one, my biggest concerns were for Lubuntu/Xubuntu. With recent memory testing [1] it's even more true for Lubuntu. (And if you only <512 MB of Ram - Docker, ZFS and system

Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Hello Bryan, Let me resurrect this thread. In the context of what we should be doing in 18.04 and what to do between now and then. In 2018: - it will be over 2 years since 3rd party ISVs stopped supporting software on i386, or even never had it officially - e.g. Google Chrome, ZFS, Docker, etc -