Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-18 Thread Xen
Louis Bouchard schreef op 18-01-2017 9:08: Hello, Le 17/01/2017 à 21:46, Bryan Quigley a écrit : On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: ... > There are two things here: > 1. make systemd journal persistent > 2. avoid duplicate logs from rsyslog > >

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-18 Thread Louis Bouchard
Hello, Le 17/01/2017 à 21:46, Bryan Quigley a écrit : > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Jamie Strandboge > wrote: > ... >> > There are two things here: >> > 1. make systemd journal persistent >> > 2. avoid duplicate logs from rsyslog >> > >> > Why not just do '1' and let

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-17 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: ... > There are two things here: > 1. make systemd journal persistent > 2. avoid duplicate logs from rsyslog > > Why not just do '1' and let rsyslog remain? The standard logs are rotated so > this shouldn't be overly

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-15 Thread Xen
Bryan Quigley schreef op 12-01-2017 16:50: We could explicitly keep rsyslog supported in main for at least 18.04 for the for those who need it (or indefinitely if we find it's still needed for remote enterprise logging). I was thinking that we might have to keep it in main until 18.04 anyway

AW: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-13 Thread Fiedler Roman
> From: ubuntu-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-devel- > boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Im Auftrag von Jamie Strandboge > Subject: Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by > default) > > On Thu, 2017-01-12 at 10:50 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > >

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-12 Thread Anca Emanuel
or make an option on an realy slow PC, to turn it off. Or automatic. Measure boot time and decide... On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On Thu, 2017-01-12 at 10:50 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > > We could explicitly keep rsyslog supported in main for

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Thu, 2017-01-12 at 10:50 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > We could explicitly keep rsyslog supported in main for at least 18.04 > for the for those who need it (or indefinitely if we find it's still > needed for remote enterprise logging).   I was thinking that we might > have to keep it in main

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-12 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 10 January 2017 at 17:04, Bryan Quigley > wrote: >> I'm sure I missed some positives/negatives. Thoughts on doing this for >> Zesty? > > We would need to install gnome-logs instead of

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-12 Thread Bryan Quigley
We could explicitly keep rsyslog supported in main for at least 18.04 for the for those who need it (or indefinitely if we find it's still needed for remote enterprise logging). I was thinking that we might have to keep it in main until 18.04 anyway for upgrades. Kind regards, Bryan On Wed,

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Wed, 2017-01-11 at 08:29 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > Jamie Strandboge [2017-01-10 16:27 -0600]: > > > > Remote logging. Rsyslog is far superior in this regard. Granted, remote > > logging > > is not enabled by default but it is a requirement in many environments. > The systemd-journal-remote

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-11 Thread Martin Pitt
Jamie Strandboge [2017-01-10 16:27 -0600]: > Remote logging. Rsyslog is far superior in this regard. Granted, remote > logging > is not enabled by default but it is a requirement in many environments. The systemd-journal-remote package does provide the necessary tools and is reasonably flexible

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-11 Thread Fiedler Roman
> From: ubuntu-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-devel- > > Jamie Strandboge [2017-01-10 16:27 -0600]: > > Remote logging. Rsyslog is far superior in this regard. Granted, > remote logging > > is not enabled by default but it is a requirement in many > environments. > > The