Olá Jonathan e a todos.
On Saturday 05 July 2008 22:19:21 Jonathan Jesse wrote:
Just a quick comment on the windows side of the things. In Vista there is
no longer a run command, it is search and works great. One of the things
I use every day on my work (Vista) machine that I miss in the
Scott Kitterman wrote:
Does Gnome not have something like Katapult? That would seem to make this
kind of discussion irrelevant.
Yes. It's called gnome-do. It rocks harder than katapult, with the
extra plugins. I'm hoping it's installed by default at some point.
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Alexander Jones wrote:
No, but I can tell you first hand that it's extremely annoying to have
to either make the three fingered acrobatics of Fn+Alt+F2 on a laptop
keyboard, or dig out a Terminal to run a simple command.
The fact that you have to use the fn key is a problem with _your_
Mackenzie Morgan pisze:
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 00:31 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
No. This would be used to open programs that are not in the menu without
having a terminal window open.
Example: metacity or compiz crashes
Solution: run it again from a run menu item
Bad solution: run
I also don't understand the reasoning behind this. If anything then it feels
like adding another layer of obscurity.
Binaries HAVE names. There's just no way around it. The fact that MOST of
the time, a user doesn't need it (the menu item) shouldn't be used as
justification that for the few cases
There are lots of people writing about it:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/167129
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68031
http://darkness.codefu.org/wordpress/post/152
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76150
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506489
Andrew Sayers pisze:
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a run
program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every user will magically know the alt+f2 shortcut.
I think this menu item should be added to the Applications
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 14:50 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
There are lots of people writing about it:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/167129
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68031
http://darkness.codefu.org/wordpress/post/152
Oh, and 3 year old threads? Really? Come on. At least keep it to
within the last year so it's people who want it -flat out- rather than
ones complaining that things changed and it surprised them.
That's a bit of a silly argument.
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On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 18:21 +0100, Alexander Jones wrote:
Oh, and 3 year old threads? Really? Come on. At least keep it to
within the last year so it's people who want it -flat out- rather than
ones complaining that things changed and it surprised them.
That's a bit of a silly
IMHO, Run Command dialog should be available from Applications menu
from main panel, period. It was confusing when it was removed (I had
to search for shortcut) and I would prefer it back (and I am GNOME
user for 7 years, haven't touched Windows for very long time). Also,
this dialog could benefit
I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to
prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells
them to go to the Run thing and type cmd and hit Enter.
Well, I have seen it in use, a lot of times. It usually happens when an
admin comes to an user
2008/7/5 HggdH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to
prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells
them to go to the Run thing and type cmd and hit Enter.
Well, I have seen it in use, a lot of times. It usually
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Caroline Ford
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2008/7/5 HggdH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to
prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells
them to go to the Run thing and type
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:33:09 -0500 HggdH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to
prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells
them to go to the Run thing and type cmd and hit Enter.
Well, I have seen it in use, a
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:33:09 -0500 HggdH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to
prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells
them to go to
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a run
program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every user will magically know the alt+f2 shortcut.
I think this menu item should be added to the Applications menu, above
or below Add/Remove menu item.
It's a
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:21 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a run
program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every user will magically know the alt+f2 shortcut.
I think this menu item should be added to the
Mackenzie Morgan pisze:
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:21 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a run
program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every user will magically know the alt+f2 shortcut.
I think this menu item
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:55 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Mackenzie Morgan pisze:
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:21 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a run
program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Mackenzie Morgan pisze:
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:21 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a
run program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every user will magically know the alt+f2
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 00:14 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Mackenzie Morgan pisze:
I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to
prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells
them to go to the Run thing and type cmd and hit Enter.
having a terminal window open.
Example: metacity or compiz crashes
Solution: run it again from a run menu item
Bad solution: run it from terminal - you have to keep it open because
when you close it you'll close metacity/compiz/whatever you've run in it
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Cory K. pisze:
There's no reason we need to match features of other OS's bit for bit.
It's not about features from other operating systems. It's about
usability. KDE has it.
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But that's not a solution. People migrating from Windows probably will
expect to have such a feature in the menu, not somewhere else. And I
don't think they would search for it in the applets.
There is a Gnome bug filed about it:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455537
I've
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 00:31 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
No. This would be used to open programs that are not in the menu without
having a terminal window open.
Example: metacity or compiz crashes
Solution: run it again from a run menu item
Bad solution: run it from terminal - you
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu (or just Gnome) doesn't have a run
program menu entry like in Windows' Start menu.
I don't think every user will magically know the alt+f2 shortcut.
I think this menu item should be added to the Applications menu, above
or below
Solution: run it again from a run menu item
I'm almost tempted to ask what's the point to run software unreliable
enough to make this an issue. ;-)
More seriously, you really want to use a Terminal in such cases to
catch the software's output. Likely, there's something to fix.
Bad solution: run
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