Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-10 Thread TJ
On 10/03/14 16:14, Dale Amon wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: network manager stores its system connection info in a text file in .ini style format in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections Thanks for that pointer... but there is nothing in there about

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 02:48:52PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to ubuntu-devel. *Network Restart* I'd like to start by asking each of you what you

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:32:17PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could have been open by default? (wearing both my Canonical and Ubuntu hats) Are Canonical employees not allowed to speak to each other now? I think you're being

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: If talking about the network, I would add: *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* The network gets lost if you have both wireless and Ethernet connection. The wired network should be the preferred one, as it is usually faster. Or else,

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:44:07PM -0800, Dale Amon wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* Which reminds me of another common use of machines that a typical GUI user won't think of. I often configure laptops that for security

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:57:37 Robie Basak wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:32:17PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could have been open by default? (wearing both my Canonical and Ubuntu hats) Are Canonical employees not

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote: The only feature I hold near and dear is that I be able to ssh into a server in a rack 8000 miles away, fiddle with /etc/network/interfaces if needed, and then reliably ifdown/ifup one of god knows how many connections (I often

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Robie Basak robie.ba...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't think it's possible to define restart networking in a way that everybody understands, and in a way that will always work on complex configurations. Instead, I think that we need to focus on *why* you need to

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Paul Smith p...@mad-scientist.net wrote: I'm not sure this level of detail is needed. I've not tried this on Ubuntu, so maybe it already works fine, but similar to the OP's request on remote Red Hat systems it is always supported to run: service network

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:02:33PM +, Robie Basak wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:44:07PM -0800, Dale Amon wrote: I often configure laptops that for security have wifi, bluetooth etc all turned off at BIOS level, and the only ethernet connection is not to the internet but to a

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 09:39:40AM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: Lots of us only use a GUI as a place to let us keep 40 xterm's available... Could you detail what process you are exactly using to do this reliably? Are you using bonds/vlans/bridging? On my current job, I am using a laptop

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Soren Hansen
Sorry for sending this to you twice, Bryan, but my first attempt is stuck in the moderation queue. 2014-03-07 1:18 GMT+05:30 Bryan Quigley bryan.quig...@canonical.com: *Network Restart* I'd like to start by asking each of you what you think is the correct way to restart networking on Ubuntu

Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Bryan Quigley
We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to ubuntu-devel. *Network Restart* I'd like to start by asking each of you what you think is the correct way to restart networking on Ubuntu server? Feel

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could have been open by default? On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Bryan Quigley bryan.quig...@canonical.com wrote: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS session [1

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
relevant people. Also, please do not top post, on ubuntu mailing list. Regards, Dimitri. ps. Didn't you part Ubuntu Community?! On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Bryan Quigley bryan.quig...@canonical.com wrote: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Stanisław Hodur
in should not spoil the connection, as it does now -- I have to disable wireless network manually to get the eth working. Best regards Stanislaus W dniu 2014-03-06 20:48, Bryan Quigley pisze: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 06, 2014 14:48:52 Bryan Quigley wrote: We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to ubuntu-devel. *Network Restart* I'd like to start by asking each of you what you think

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Dale Amon
The only feature I hold near and dear is that I be able to ssh into a server in a rack 8000 miles away, fiddle with /etc/network/interfaces if needed, and then reliably ifdown/ifup one of god knows how many connections (I often work with machines that have 8 or even more hardware ethers, not to

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:41PM +0100, Stanisław Hodur wrote: *Wifi + Ethernet on Desktop* Which reminds me of another common use of machines that a typical GUI user won't think of. I often configure laptops that for security have wifi, bluetooth etc all turned off at BIOS level, and the