On Monday 19 November 2007 12:41:35 Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 18.11.2007, 08:34 -0500 schrieb Patrick:
I see it now. I never noticed it there. Is there any reason it cannot
also be placed under the right click too?-Patrick
I don't think that this is a very often needed
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:46:03AM +, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
On Monday 19 November 2007 12:41:35 Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 18.11.2007, 08:34 -0500 schrieb Patrick:
I see it now. I never noticed it there. Is there any reason it cannot
also be placed under the
Am 21.11.2007 um 02:52 schrieb Jan Claeys:
but an easy-to-use GUI will often make it easier to have an
insecure system as
a result. Preventing this from happening is maybe possible, but
certainly not easy!
I don't buy this argument. Well made GUI's contain a lot of
knowledge, more
Hi Sebastian
That sounds like a good idea!
I would like to help. Do you have a rough estimate as to when the web
based Synaptic will be ready?
Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
Am Montag, den 19.11.2007, 22:47 -0500 schrieb Patrick:
The post installation scripts should be divided up between
It uses the web because we shouldn't require servers to have the huge
set of (potentially dangerous) packages that are needed for X11 and
Gnome or KDE.
Those web configuration tools though, they're a bit podgy and the
designers tend not to have the widgets they need to do a good enough
job.
Am Sonntag, den 18.11.2007, 08:34 -0500 schrieb Patrick:
I see it now. I never noticed it there. Is there any reason it cannot
also be placed under the right click too?-Patrick
I don't think that this is a very often needed feature. We want to keep
the menu short.
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I spent several hours last week writing emails regarding making
improvements to how packages are configured and how tutorials are done.
I realize now that writing helper scripts that would be a hybrid of an
installation script and a tutorial might not be the best way to get the
job done.
It
-Ubuntu documentation is so much better then it used to be, I don't
think it is lacking in terms of the casual user.
-I am not having trouble searching for documentation.
-These usability tests are nice but not quite applicable to the concerns
I have.
On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Patrick wrote:
...
We should be putting forth what Ubuntu can do that Windows cannot. It
is the ability to set up so many services and customize so many things
that makes it amazing. Most of this still needs to be done at the
terminal though. People need to be
indeed I am unsure of how to contribute.
It would seem that I could take the prize for both the longest and most
poorly written emails as the feedback I am receiving is disconnected
from the message I was sending.
To summarize my long winded emails:
Ubuntu is the ultimate OS for the power
Patrick wrote:
indeed I am unsure of how to contribute.
It would seem that I could take the prize for both the longest and most
poorly written emails as the feedback I am receiving is disconnected
from the message I was sending.
To summarize my long winded emails:
Ubuntu is the ultimate
Am Donnerstag, den 15.11.2007, 11:36 +0900 schrieb Onno Benschop:
All of what you write exists:
* To reconfigure a package: sudo dpkg-reconfigure foobar, perhaps it
would be useful to add this functionality to Synaptic.
This feature exists already for years. Select a corresponding
Am Mittwoch, den 14.11.2007, 06:47 -0500 schrieb Patrick:
#!/bin/bash
echo we need to do such and such, here are some options to try, blah,
blah, blah etc
sudo gedit /etc/exports
echo okay now we need to do this because blah blah
sudo exportfs -ra
sudo /etc/init.d/portmap
I see it now. I never noticed it there. Is there any reason it cannot
also be placed under the right click too?-Patrick
Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 15.11.2007, 11:36 +0900 schrieb Onno Benschop:
All of what you write exists:
* To reconfigure a package: sudo
help them through these topics quickly and we could put our best foot
forward.
Good night everyone, I'm going to bed-Patrick
Onno Benschop wrote:
All of what you write exists:
* A package that is not installed but run from the bash prompt is
captured with a comment
On 15/11/07 22:55, Patrick wrote:
Has Canonical carried out studies with new users of different technical
abilities? This might be a good thing to do. After a Newbie installs
Ubuntu where do they go first? How is their experience in the first
hour. To woe Windows users I think the first
Hi Everyone
This is my first post here.
It seems to me that me that if an administration job needs to get done
there are pretty much two ways of going about it:
With GUI assistance, i.e Synaptic
or
Through the Command line with possible manual editing of configuration
files.
Synaptic and
On 14/11/2007, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So my suggestion is a
halfway point between the hand-holding of the GUI and the sometimes
confusing world of the CLI.
IMO, beginners like the hand-holding. It's vital for Ubuntu not to get
confusing for the end-user. Getting them to run shell
Hi Eoin and list
I agree that shell scripts are not for beginners. Really I think Ubuntu
is already really good for the beginners, although a different bred of
OS , I don't see what is more difficult then let's say windoze. However
for a beginner administrator, let's say someone who is trying
On 15/11/07 02:51, Patrick wrote:
Hi Eoin and list
I agree that shell scripts are not for beginners. Really I think Ubuntu
is already really good for the beginners, although a different bred of
OS , I don't see what is more difficult then let's say windoze. However
for a beginner
I see where you are going with this and I will make a bug report if I
encounter this sort of trouble again.
I hope I am not beating this to death now but I need to continue.
Being a dumbass I have another perspective to offer. Early on I
encountered these post installation questions but I did
On 15/11/07 09:07, Patrick wrote:
Hi Onno and List
I am not sure I have made my intentions clear. First of all, Ubuntu's
package management system is easier and less hazardous then a
windoze-one-click-installer program, my helper script idea was just to
focus on the configuration and if
All of what you write exists:
* A package that is not installed but run from the bash prompt is
captured with a comment like The program 'foobar' is currently
not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install
foobar
This functionality should be
did not have to search on the net for this information. I
don't really know what to call it but perhaps a Q A / interactive
tutorial utility could provide quick guidance to new users. It could
help them through these topics quickly and we could put our best foot
forward.
Good night everyone
On 11/15/07, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
How much of all this tutorial stuff is already in the man pages?
The manual pages contain vast amounts of detail, but I'm not sure
they provide the overview for some of the more general questions.
Further, I'm fairly certain that most complex tasks are not
How much of all this tutorial stuff is already in the man pages?
Hobbsee
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