Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Dimitri John Ledkov schreef op 30-06-2016 20:14: My current hunch is like this at the moment: - 18.04 to still have an i386 port in the archive, and be upgradable to. - 18.04 not having desktop/server install media (however maybe even releases before that) - 18.04 has "ubuntu-desktop" but

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Charl Wentzel wrote: > > > On 01/07/2016 21:05, Bryan Quigley wrote: > > Can you elaborate on what specific systems you are purchasing today > that use 32-bit x86 (I believe the only vendors ever were AMD, Intel > and VIA)? > > The

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On 01/07/2016 21:05, Bryan Quigley wrote: Can you elaborate on what specific systems you are purchasing today that use 32-bit x86 (I believe the only vendors ever were AMD, Intel and VIA)? The chipsets are mostly AMD and Intel as you've stated. The vendor I purchase from mostly is iEi. They

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

> I use Ubuntu as my main platform on embedded system. There are still many > viable 32-bit platforms that are being manufactured. Can you elaborate on what specific systems you are purchasing today that use 32-bit x86 (I believe the only vendors ever were AMD, Intel and VIA)? Also what is

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On 29/06/2016 15:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and laptops, but I would not be surprised if 32-bit

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

OK, I'm reassured that we're thinking about this appropriately, thanks Dimitri & friends. Mark -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Hello Mark, On 29 June 2016 at 14:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and >

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Hello, On 28 June 2016 at 21:08, Seth Arnold wrote: >> 18.04 LTS: >> * continue to provide i386 port to run legacy applications on amd64 >> * stop producing i386 d-i / netboot installer >> * stop producing i386 kernel >> * stop producing i386 cloud-images >> * stop

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On 29.06.2016 15:37, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used > for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers > targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and > laptops, but I would not be surprised if

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Let's also factor in flavors like Lubuntu that aim to use very minimal resources and that have the ability to run with ~ 300 MB of RAM on an i386 machine. While I understand modern applications are removing i386 support, we have a nice application base for Lubuntu for both LXDE and LXQt that

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Greetings, Let's also factor in flavors like Lubuntu that aim to use very minimal resources and that have the ability to run with ~ 300 MB of RAM on an i386 machine. While I understand modern applications are removing i386 support, we have a nice application base for Lubuntu for both LXDE and

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

Folks, I think we need to understand whether i386 won't be widely used for very small IoT devices and hence be important for developers targeting those. I accept i386 i no longer relevant for PC's and laptops, but I would not be surprised if 32-bit x86 is used in small 'embedded' environments.

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 02:54:13PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Let me resurrect this thread. In the context of what we should be > doing in 18.04 and what to do between now and then. Thanks for raising this again; it'd be nice to have a plan in place before we wind up in a difficult

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

r i386. I > don't > > see much reason to separate the userspace security support, but we will > see > > what the surveys say. > > > > Anyway next steps I see: > > * We discussed dropping Ubuntu-desktop i386 images for 16.10+ previously. > > That seems like the ob

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

hat the surveys say. Anyway next steps I see: * We discussed dropping Ubuntu-desktop i386 images for 16.10+ previously. That seems like the obvious one to drop i386 first. Anyone against doing that now? * I'll write and distribute the surveys. * Ask specific flavors if they want to drop i386 ah

Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

amd64 kernel, and >> amd64 graphics drivers. And hardware validation is done on amd64 too. >> >> In 2016, people with i386-only hardware are unlikely to be capable to >> run Unity 7 Desktop, and probably run other Ubuntu variants. I guess >> there are some accidental i38

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

l simply EOL. >> >> * because any new installation is amd64 capable, or such is the Ubuntu >> Desktop ISO installer requirement for 16.04 LTS >> >> * reduce releases.ubuntu.com mirror costs by about a third >> >> Otherwise, all survey results will remain co

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

still > need to take some action even if it's just saying.. Sorry Ubuntu > x86_32 with Unity can't be upgraded any further. But then I don't see > the harm in saying click here to install Desktop Environment X. > >>>> >>>> * because any new installation is amd64 ca

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

ith Unity can't be upgraded any further. But then I don't see the harm in saying click here to install Desktop Environment X. >>> >>> * because any new installation is amd64 capable, or such is the Ubuntu >>> Desktop ISO installer requirement for 16.04 LTS >

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

* because any new installation is amd64 capable, or such is the Ubuntu > Desktop ISO installer requirement for 16.04 LTS > > * reduce releases.ubuntu.com mirror costs by about a third > > Otherwise, all survey results will remain constant. > > Building images is cheap, however I do

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote: > Hi, > > On 02/02/2016 08:58, Stefan Bader wrote: >>> >>> >My guess is that: all currently shipped hardware, with enough support >>> >to run full Unity (7) Desktop, is amd64. Tested with amd64

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

are are unlikely to be capable to > run Unity 7 Desktop, and probably run other Ubuntu variants. I guess > there are some accidental i386 users, e.g. those that have installed > i386 variant on amd64 hardware. > > Does it still make sense to build ubuntu-desktop-i386.iso? Validate

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

on is amd64 capable, or such is the Ubuntu Desktop ISO installer requirement for 16.04 LTS * reduce releases.ubuntu.com mirror costs by about a third Otherwise, all survey results will remain constant. Building images is cheap, however I do not believe we can actually adequately support i386 ones for ubunt