Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-02-05 Thread Xen
Bryan Quigley schreef op 02-02-2018 17:55: Stability means: no changes in functionality. Ah, this is the key point of my proposal. Stability for my purposes means predictability when changes in functionality will occur. I understand, I was just meaning to say that there is no culture or

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-02-02 Thread Bryan Quigley
> Stability means: no changes in functionality. Ah, this is the key point of my proposal. Stability for my purposes means predictability when changes in functionality will occur. > 4. Apt is geared towards advancement, not retreat. Meta packages can't be > used to uninstall, and rarely to

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-02-02 Thread Bryan Quigley
>> The hard part from my point of view is deciding as a project what we >> want to define couplings for, what the couplings should be, and what >> gets priority generally. > > the python stack, the php stack, and others might be loosely coupled, but > throwing a few library transitions makes them

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-02-01 Thread Nrbrtx
Dear Bryan and all! I think that the greatest problem nowadays is that reported bugs are not fixed and/or even triaged. I have asked for support on community.ubuntu.com ( https://community.ubuntu.com/t/improving-bug-visibility/2626). But bug visibility is still low. Sometimes I think to stop

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-01-31 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:49 PM, Robie Basak wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:39:00PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: >> I see a few possible ways: >> 1. >> * Packages that aren't part of a set that is coupled with others >> could be synced at any time >> * Coupled sets

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-01-31 Thread Bryan Quigley
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Simon Quigley wrote: > Hello Bryan, > > On 01/31/2018 06:07 PM, Bryan Quigley wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Instead of releasing a version of Ubuntu every 6 months, we release >> select core components of Ubuntu every month. Updates to core >>

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-01-31 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:39:00PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote: > I see a few possible ways: > 1. > * Packages that aren't part of a set that is coupled with others > could be synced at any time > * Coupled sets of packages could be synced in a similar staggered way > as directly uploaded

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-01-31 Thread Bryan Quigley
I see a few possible ways: 1. * Packages that aren't part of a set that is coupled with others could be synced at any time * Coupled sets of packages could be synced in a similar staggered way as directly uploaded packages 2. Have dedicated sync months, where they are the only or majority of

Re: Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-01-31 Thread Robie Basak
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Ubuntu Monthly Update Cadence Proposal

2018-01-31 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hi, Instead of releasing a version of Ubuntu every 6 months, we release select core components of Ubuntu every month. Updates to core components would need to be staggered so that no closely coupled components would see a major release within the same month. We'd provide a newsletter every