Markus Hitter [2009-05-21 22:34 +0200]:
Obviously, they trust them selves to reliably avoid regressions and
trust their customers not to complain about new features.
As I said, you cannot have a regression _by definition_ if you ship a
new machine with that backported stuff preinstalled.
Of
Am 22.05.2009 um 08:23 schrieb Martin Pitt:
As I said, you cannot have a regression _by definition_ if you ship a
new machine with that backported stuff preinstalled.
Of course.
Of course I don't know whether they inflict those updates to earlier
customers as well.
They sell the machine
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote:
Am 22.05.2009 um 08:23 schrieb Martin Pitt:
As I said, you cannot have a regression _by definition_ if you ship a
new machine with that backported stuff preinstalled.
Of course.
Of course I don't know whether they
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote:
In my opinion, this is disappointing. Very disappointing. What is
wrong with Ubuntu's release/fix/backport strategy for such a thing to
happen?
Downstreams should feel free to adopt whatever policies suit them.
(Think
2009/5/21 Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de:
[snip]
From the article:
We go the extra mile in double qualifying all updates (that one
would see in stock 8.10 and 9.04) and only publish those that are
rock-stable.
To me, this sounds much like a fork of Ubuntu, just without a new
name. Stick
Actually, it is not disappointing, it's just Dell as OEM shows us a
way where we should be going to.
Yes, we need to change release policy. We really need LTS every two
years (and lot of small development releases between them), AND we
need to overlook 'we don't release new software, just
I find Dell's policy to be logical and fitting for what they do.
But I would stress that part of what FOSS does better than all those
other guys is evolution rather than large revision. I'd be a wary of
breaking the 6 month release heartbeat cycle, it keeps everyone on their
toes and allows for
Hey Markus,
Well, xorg is based on (or part of) X, which is about 20 years old. X
was considered to be mature for some time, and severly behind a few
years later. Do you really think there is something like a maturity
which can be reached? If not after 20 years, how long does it take?
Il giorno gio, 21/05/2009 alle 14.16 +0200, Markus Hitter ha scritto:
Well, xorg is based on (or part of) X, which is about 20 years old.
X
was considered to be mature for some time, and severly behind a
few
years later. Do you really think there is something like a
maturity
which
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote:
Am 21.05.2009 um 19:11 schrieb Martin Pitt:
Shipping a new machine with hardy plus some extra Dell repo for new
stuff is just fine for them, if that's how they see they can benefit
their customers best. Arguably they
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