Re: hidden error messages

2007-02-23 Thread Michael R. Head
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 12:51 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hi, > > Mike Cornelison [2007-02-22 16:09 +0100]: > > When a GUI application outputs error messages to stdout or stderr, it is > > like writing them into a black hole. > > They are actually supposed to go to ~/.xsession-errors. Please file

Re: hidden error messages

2007-02-23 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi, Mike Cornelison [2007-02-22 16:09 +0100]: > When a GUI application outputs error messages to stdout or stderr, it is > like writing them into a black hole. They are actually supposed to go to ~/.xsession-errors. Please file bugs if that doesn't happen for a particular case. At least it work

Re: hidden error messages

2007-02-22 Thread Christoffer Sørensen
On 2/22/07, Mike Cornelison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When a GUI application outputs error messages to stdout or stderr, it is > like writing them into a black hole. This stupid practice should stop. > Messages to stdout or stderr should pop-up in a text window. This should > be a standard part

hidden error messages

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Cornelison
I just had yet another unpleasant experience trying to play a multimedia file (quick time .mov file). I tried several media players and I witnessed crashes, cryptic messages and often nothing at all unless I ran the app from a terminal in order to see messages to stdout and stderr. I got the me