Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Packaging new software

2013-07-07 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/06/2013 04:07 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote on ubuntu-motu: Five months ago, I asked on developer.ubuntu.com to add the Dutch translation of The Ubuntu Manual Getting started with Ubuntu to the Software Center. ... I am currently trying to learn how to package, create a PPA and upload to

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Bazaar under Windows 8

2013-07-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/06/2013 08:58 AM, Mehmet Kani wrote: With a lot of work I think I have worked it out except for the above. It might be less work to install VirtualBox on Windows 8, and run Ubuntu in a virtual machine? Then you can just use the pkgs/ubuntu-manual-dev.sh script to install everything you

[Ubuntu-manual] Glossary issue (was: Re: Installation of TexLive on Saucy alpha 1 )

2013-06-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/28/2013 07:22 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: The glossaries package has a bug in it that prevents the manual from compiling. I've written some code to work around the bug (but apparently haven't uploaded it from my laptop—I'll do this soon). I got the same result from my Saucy install, I

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Glossary issue

2013-06-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/29/2013 10:33 AM, Kevin Godby wrote: I'm biased towards continuing to allow package use, since it is what we told our Lubuntu folks to do, as well as my personal preference in general for software management on Debian/Ubuntu machines. I would prefer to use the Ubuntu packages, too. It

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Glossary issue

2013-06-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/29/2013 10:51 AM, Kevin Godby wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Is it worth our emailing the package maintainers and letting them know of our preference for using their work and our needs, so they are encouraged to roll out a new

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Installation of TexLive on Saucy alpha 1

2013-06-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/28/2013 05:15 PM, Jim Connett wrote: Has anyone attempted to install TexLive on 13.10 Alpha1? ... There seems to be a problem. The last line of the install-pkgs.log file reads: cannot setup TLPDB in /home/jonathan/texmf at /usr/bin/tlmgr line 5300 I'll play with getting that script

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Installation of TexLive on Saucy alpha 1

2013-06-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/28/2013 06:56 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:15 PM, Jim Connett wrote: Has anyone attempted to install TexLive on 13.10 Alpha1? ... There seems to be a problem. The last line of the install-pkgs.log file reads: cannot setup TLPDB in /home/jonathan/texmf at /usr/bin

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Installation of TexLive on Saucy alpha 1

2013-06-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Kevin, On 06/28/2013 08:12 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: Version: 2013.20130530-1 On May 30, 2013, though, the upstream TeX Live was still 2012. So that doesn't really clarify things much. What does pdflatex --version print? pdfTeX 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013/Debian) kpathsea

[Ubuntu-manual] Choosing software tools (was : Re: A wine application for editing tex files. )

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/19/2013 04:21 AM, Patrick Dickey wrote: In a couple of threads, people were discussing GUI-based editors for tex files. If you've got Wine installed, you can install Notepad ++ and it supports LaTeX highlighting. The only issue you might run into is whether it uses the same carriage

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Scripted installation of backported texlive packages in 12.04 (works now)

2013-06-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/15/2013 10:01 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: The script could use one more fix/enhancement that I know of, which is that if you re-run it after a failure, it exits at the bzr branch command saying that lubuntu

[Ubuntu-manual] Lubuntu cover artwork wanted (Re: Lubuntu Manual )

2013-06-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/16/2013 12:01 PM, Yorvyk wrote: On 16/06/13 19:22, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote: What can I do there? I mean, I checked it out and the Manual seems to need some screenshots and not many more. If you need me to draw something, please, tell me and I'll do it (bullets, diagrams, etc). We

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Lubuntu Manual PDF can now be built

2013-06-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/16/2013 05:37 PM, Jason Odoom wrote: Thank you so much for your help. I was able to successfully build the manual on Lubuntu. The process of grabbing missing packages was what messed me up on the first run. After a couple of hours it was done grabbing the packages and I was ready to

[Ubuntu-manual] Obtaining Lubuntu (was: Re: Scripted installation of backported texlive packages in 12.04 )

2013-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/14/2013 08:33 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: For the manual, use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu as that area is updated as per the ubuntu release team. That's what I already did in my first pass, but I didn't want to be making solo decisions about it, so I decided to

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Gummi

2013-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/15/2013 11:27 AM, Yorvyk wrote: I notice that in the dim and distant past there was a blueprint item [1] to see if gummi could be made to work with UMP. I take it this went no where. If this is the case, are there any programmers who'd like to prod it to see if it could be made to work.

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Obtaining Lubuntu

2013-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/15/2013 11:49 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: indeed. Who ever is wiki lead (JasonO) and myself prep the new pages up before each release, so in theory you can pull from those. Not 100% sure on when docs cut off is for the manual. For example, the current 'GetLubuntu' was

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Obtaining Lubuntu

2013-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/15/2013 12:19 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Ali is one of drivers as to 'how low can we go' with RAM, as ZRam only landed into the pre-alphas a couple of days ago it is still a work in progress as to what the new specifications will be. OK. I hope he will be doing some well documented and

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Scripted installation of backported texlive packages in 12.04 (works now)

2013-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/14/2013 12:06 PM, Yorvyk wrote: On 14/06/13 19:18, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2013, at 07:21 AM, Yorvyk wrote: On 14/06/13 05:24, Jonathan Marsden wrote: Hmmm, this means I could enhance my setup script to add that PPA and grab the backported packages, if it is run

[Ubuntu-manual] Improvements to install-pkgs.sh script

2013-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I just pushed an improved install-pkgs.sh script to the Lubuntu branch. Changes include: * Use set -e to exit when an error occurs. * Add notice that installing packages may take a long time. * Sort and remove duplicates from package list. * Display package list before downloading

[Ubuntu-manual] Scripted installation of backported texlive packages in 12.04 (was: Re: Upstream vs packaged texlive )

2013-06-14 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013, at 07:21 AM, Yorvyk wrote: On 14/06/13 05:24, Jonathan Marsden wrote: Hmmm, this means I could enhance my setup script to add that PPA and grab the backported packages, if it is run on 12.04... I might give that a go... Have you tried this yet? No... I worked

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Scripted installation of backported texlive packages in 12.04

2013-06-14 Thread Jonathan Marsden
the installation. I haven't tried that either, but it should work. I tried that and it appears to work OK. Good! So now you can pick a chapter or two and start writing. Lead the way and set us a good example :) Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Lubuntu Manual PDF can now be built

2013-06-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/13/2013 11:18 AM, Patrick Dickey wrote: I tweaked your script a little, as I've already got a Projects directory and the upstream Tex-Live installed. When I ran the install-pkgs.sh script as part of your script, it says that I don't have any Tex-Live installed at all. The only thing I

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] keep tabs What does it mean?

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/12/2013 09:03 AM, Carsten Gerlach wrote: »This is a convenient way keeping track of which files you are publishing, [...]«? If yes, I would fix this in the Saucy branch. Yes. I'm a native English speaker, and that's a clear and much less idiomatic way of saying it :) Jonathan

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/12/2013 08:33 AM, Yorvyk wrote: Is there any consensus on this yet? Noone has said no, don't use packaged texlive it breaks stuff yet. From the mail thread (and my own quick test) it appears that the version in the repos. works for 13.04 and the upstream version will be needed for

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
results of your efforts by doing (7) evince ubuntu-manual.pdf The script specifically for Lubuntu Manual will be in the pkgs/ subdirectory of the Lubuntu branch, but it doesn't exist yet :) Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm

[Ubuntu-manual] Lubuntu Manual PDF can now be built

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
It works :) I've populated the bzr branch and edited the titlepage files, lubuntu-manual.tex, and the Makefile. Now you can: (1) Install Lubuntu 13.04, log in, open LXTerminal. (2) wget

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-10 Thread Jonathan Marsden
that is yours :) Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual Post to : ubuntu-manual@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual More help : https

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Minor bug in install-pkgs.sh, and a new automated install script

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 01:54 AM, Carsten Gerlach wrote: Am 09.06.2013 04:00, schrieb Jonathan Marsden: I've also created ubuntu-manual-dev.sh ... Great work! It runs without any problems. Thanks :) 1. What is the meaning of the syntax in WORKDIR=${1:-~/projects}? Normally I would use WORKDIR

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 05:55 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: Ah, okay. You're running TeX Live 2011. tlmgr doesn't let you upgrade from 2011 to 2012, so you have to download the TeX Live 2012 installer and run through the installation process again. Since TeX Live 2013 will be released sometime in the next

[Ubuntu-manual] Separate Lubuntu manual bzr repository?

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I looked at creating a new bzr repository on Launchpad for the Lubuntu Manual variant which we hope to start creating very soon. I ran into a slight problem: we would need to create a new separate project in order to do that, as far as I can see. Given: 19:41 hannie godbyk, phillw, Yorvyk may

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Separate Lubuntu manual bzr repository?

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 09:12 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: We could either create a branch called 'lubuntu-saucy' or you could create a separate project (e.g., lubuntu-manual) and create your own bzr repositories under that. The first option sounds good to me. If we create a repository under the

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 09:32 PM, Thomas Corwin wrote: And I have not looked at the Quickshot stuff yet. Also, don't expect a lot for this release of the manual. I'm a Windows developer trying to use Mono C# environment. The application will be able to take a full screenshot, and a specific window

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
bzr branch lp:quickshot to get the current quickshot codebase ... On 06/09/2013 10:04 PM, Thomas Corwin wrote: I forgot I could do that.. I never thought of it really. Haha. But I will do that once I fix my Ubuntu installation. (Windows 8 and Ubuntu do not go together well when you dual

[Ubuntu-manual] Minor bug in install-pkgs.sh, and a new automated install script

2013-06-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Kevin and team, There is one minor but important bug in pkgs/install-pkgs.sh which I noticed. If the file tufte-book.cls is not present, it tries to install a package named textlive-latex-pictures, which does not exist and so the whole apt-get install command fails. This is not tested for in

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Minor bug in install-pkgs.sh, and a new automated install script

2013-06-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/08/2013 07:03 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: The fix for the wrong package name is just to edit line 506 of the script so it says texlive-pictures rather than texlive-latex-pictures. I think the current install-pkgs.sh script hasn't been updated to work with the newer Ubuntu packages (since we

[Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
My (very limited!) experience is that using Raring-packaged texlive works, for a definition of works that just means it creates an English language PDF file that is viewable in evince and which looks right when so viewed for a minute or two. Why does the Ubuntu Manual team currently recommend