I think the URL is a great idea - but as a follow up.

The problem is that most standard SME IT managers already know the  
benefits of Linux (usually learnt from a smart friend during their  
university days and Register news articles)  but are in a Microsoft  
comfort zone.
I think the Sales website would be a great follow up to a small event.  
IT managers will listen to anything that gets them out of the office  
for a couple of hours and provides them with some free tat.
This doesn't need to be expensive... and I'm sure this is the sort of  
idea that Canonical might be able to help out.

on that note... mailing list cherry popped... now I'm working at home,  
I have time to get involved!


On 16 Apr 2008, at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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> From: "John Vilsack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team Announcement
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> I agree that this is an issue, but a solution is available.
>
> The only way we are going to see penetration into the consumer  
> market in
> which sales representatives are able to help customers make informed
> decisions is through user education.  There are many aspects of the  
> movement
> Ubuntu is involved in that we all take for granted.  Even your  
> average "Mom
> & Pop" stores would only be able to sell these based on their own
> experiences with the community and the software itself.
>
> I believe that generating some sort of documentation that training  
> teams
> could glean information from would allow us to either develop a  
> relationship
> with organizations that train their employees or perhaps directly  
> with the
> employees themselves.  We could design it in a philosophy similar to
> Ubuntu:  clean, easy to understand, and accessible to everyone.
>
> The more easy-to-use, bulleted documentation we can provide, the  
> faster we
> can get people on board to evangelize the product.  I would even go  
> so far
> as to recommend obtaining a new URL like sellingubuntu.com so that  
> companies
> can find it even easier. We could even offer contact information to
> interface directly with those who are trying to understand how to  
> sell the
> idea of Ubuntu to others (in a more finite environment than say the  
> forums
> or a mailing list).
>
> Does anyone feel this is a good/bad idea?
>
> Thank you for listening,
> John Vilsack
>
>
> PS:  This is my first contribution to the marketing team. I hope to
> contribute in any way that I can!
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>
>
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> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Nick Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Danny Piccirillo
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> We are organizing a letter writing and calling campaign to get  
>>> Ubuntu in
>>> Stores. Please read "The Final Push: Linux in Stores" and Digg it!
>>
>> I find it interesting that you have Walmart listed in the
>> UbuntuInStores wiki page. They already made an attempt with the  
>> Everex
>> gOS machines.
>>
>> And have pulled them from their stores already. Maybe they are still
>> being sold online.
>>
>> IMO, this is why it won't work anytime in the near future, at least  
>> in
>> the US: "Staff will have to know about free software and Linux, so
>> customers will no longer be kept in the dark." Companies like Walmart
>> will never spend money educating/training their employees.
>>
>> I remember reading some article where the reporter interviewed a
>> Walmart employee about the gOS machines. The employee said he didn't
>> know much about the computers, but warned customers they don't run
>> Windows applications.
>>
>> Mom and Pop stores may be a better target.
>>
>> nick
>>
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> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:16:13 -0700
> From: "Paul Bartell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team Announcement
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> I think that would be a great idea. Perhaps, have some sort of
> training for sales associates. Or even, have some flyers by the
> computers for sale explaining all the differences, adn that there is
> an open source alternative to almost everything..
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:56 AM, John Vilsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> I agree that this is an issue, but a solution is available.
>>
>> The only way we are going to see penetration into the consumer  
>> market in
>> which sales representatives are able to help customers make informed
>> decisions is through user education.  There are many aspects of the  
>> movement
>> Ubuntu is involved in that we all take for granted.  Even your  
>> average "Mom
>> & Pop" stores would only be able to sell these based on their own
>> experiences with the community and the software itself.
>>
>> I believe that generating some sort of documentation that training  
>> teams
>> could glean information from would allow us to either develop a  
>> relationship
>> with organizations that train their employees or perhaps directly  
>> with the
>> employees themselves.  We could design it in a philosophy similar  
>> to Ubuntu:
>> clean, easy to understand, and accessible to everyone.
>>
>> The more easy-to-use, bulleted documentation we can provide, the  
>> faster we
>> can get people on board to evangelize the product.  I would even go  
>> so far
>> as to recommend obtaining a new URL like sellingubuntu.com so that  
>> companies
>> can find it even easier. We could even offer contact information to
>> interface directly with those who are trying to understand how to  
>> sell the
>> idea of Ubuntu to others (in a more finite environment than say the  
>> forums
>> or a mailing list).
>>
>> Does anyone feel this is a good/bad idea?
>>
>> Thank you for listening,
>> John Vilsack
>>
>>
>> PS:  This is my first contribution to the marketing team. I hope to
>> contribute in any way that I can!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Nick Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Danny Piccirillo
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> We are organizing a letter writing and calling campaign to get  
>>>> Ubuntu in
>>>> Stores. Please read "The Final Push: Linux in Stores" and Digg it!
>>>
>>> I find it interesting that you have Walmart listed in the
>>> UbuntuInStores wiki page. They already made an attempt with the  
>>> Everex
>>> gOS machines.
>>>
>>> And have pulled them from their stores already. Maybe they are still
>>> being sold online.
>>>
>>> IMO, this is why it won't work anytime in the near future, at  
>>> least in
>>> the US: "Staff will have to know about free software and Linux, so
>>> customers will no longer be kept in the dark." Companies like  
>>> Walmart
>>> will never spend money educating/training their employees.
>>>
>>> I remember reading some article where the reporter interviewed a
>>> Walmart employee about the gOS machines. The employee said he didn't
>>> know much about the computers, but warned customers they don't run
>>> Windows applications.
>>>
>>> Mom and Pop stores may be a better target.
>>>
>>> nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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