Re: [Fwd: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.]

2008-01-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
Good Morning, I don't see any intervention of the motu-council here. You are talking about two different upstream projects, falcon the language and falcon the whatever python script. As it is in the real world, one comes up with a good name, and another one comes up with the same name. What

REVU Upload notification

2008-01-14 Thread Emmet Hikory
Fellow MOTU, In recent weeks, I've noticed a fair number of REVU candidates being uploaded to the repositories, without the NEW notification being forwarded to this list. Unless there was agreement to stop doing that of which I am unaware, I'd like to ask that uploaders resume forwarding the

Re: [Fwd: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.]

2008-01-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
Hi, On Mo, 2008-01-14 at 11:01 +0100, Giancarlo Niccolai wrote: Stephan Hermann wrote: Good Morning, I don't see any intervention of the motu-council here. You are talking about two different upstream projects, snip And I think this is your problem right now. Not a technical or

Upcoming MOTU Meeting

2008-01-14 Thread Emmet Hikory
The next MOTU Meeting will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on Freenode 2008-1-18 12:00 UTC. If you'd like to raise anything for discussion, please add an entry to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings Attendance is open to all, for discussion of any items that impact the MOTU Community. -- Emmet

Re: [Fwd: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.]

2008-01-14 Thread Giancarlo Niccolai
Stephan Hermann wrote: Well, when you respect the ubuntu users or your users in general (ubuntu is not that special) then you would solve the problem by yourself. e.G. you rename all your binaries and libs from falcon to falconpl (this is just an example of a simple solution ! ) and then you

Re: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.

2008-01-14 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
Scott Kitterman wrote: My suggestion is to call your package falconpl as you've said you would and then conflict against falcon. After that, we can let the market decide. If one of these packages gets popular enough to cause the other difficulty with the conflicts, then the less popular

Re: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.

2008-01-14 Thread Emmet Hikory
On Jan 14 January 2008 11:31 AM, Giancarlo Niccolai wrote: Up to date, several MOTUs have checked and reported there is no current namespace clash. I am also willing to call my package falconpl, which is also the name of the site: On Jan 14, 2008 1:42 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: My suggestion

Re: [Fwd: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.]

2008-01-14 Thread Soren Hansen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 11:52:43AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: That's why I always tell upstream authors to never package their own software, because they are not objective. I think this is silly. The more familiar the maintainer is with upstream the better, IMO. They need to realise that

Re: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.

2008-01-14 Thread Giancarlo Niccolai
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: My suggestion is to call your package falconpl as you've said you would and then conflict against falcon. After that, we can let the market decide. If one of these packages gets popular enough to cause the other difficulty with the

Re: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.

2008-01-14 Thread Daniel Holbach
On Mo, 2008-01-14 at 14:39 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: IMO, the programming language should allowed to be /usr/bin/falcon. Changing the name of the interpreter will mean that any program that is supposed to be interpreted by falcon will need to be patched. OTOH, renaming the binary in Dennis'

REVU: Uploaded: livemix 0.49~rc2-0ubuntu1

2008-01-14 Thread Barry deFreese
NEW: livemix_0.49~rc2.orig.tar.gz NEW: livemix_0.49~rc2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz NEW: livemix_0.49~rc2-0ubuntu1.dsc -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:41:31 +0100 Source: livemix Binary: livemix Architecture: source Version: 0.49~rc2-0ubuntu1

Re: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.

2008-01-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
On Mo, 2008-01-14 at 14:39 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:15:41PM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote: I don't have a strong opinion about which is the right falcon, but such a Conflicts: would be wrong. Section 10.1 of the Debian Policy Manual (1) clearly states, in part:

Re: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.

2008-01-14 Thread Soren Hansen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: IMO, the programming language should allowed to be /usr/bin/falcon. Changing the name of the interpreter will mean that any program that is supposed to be interpreted by falcon will need to be patched. OTOH, renaming the

Re: [Fwd: Naming problem for the Falcon Programming Language in Ubuntu.]

2008-01-14 Thread Soren Hansen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 05:12:15PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: That's why I always tell upstream authors to never package their own software, because they are not objective. I think this is silly. The more familiar the maintainer is with upstream the better, IMO. They need to realise that

xslideshow probelms 7.10 64Bit

2008-01-14 Thread Christian aka Baumi
Hi motu, is there a known problem with xslideshow on a plain 7.10 64Bit installation. I am always getting SigServ Errors ... would be patient for any hint on this, Chris -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: xslideshow probelms 7.10 64Bit

2008-01-14 Thread Gauvain Pocentek
Hello, Have a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xslideshow/+bugs If you don't find a report about your problem, create one. Gauvain Christian aka Baumi wrote: Hi motu, is there a known problem with xslideshow on a plain 7.10 64Bit installation. I am always getting SigServ