Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 05, 2014 21:27:36 Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:00:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Personally, I'm fine with it being in #ubuntu-release. I think we're > > already much too fragmented and people are too comfortable in their own > > corner of the project.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Calling for Click signing

2014-06-05 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Ondrej Kubik wrote: > > At the moment only security measure involved while installing click package > is https connection to click store. Click package itself is not signed. > At the same time even RTM image will have enabled side loading. > > This opens potential r

[Ubuntu-phone] Calling for Click signing

2014-06-05 Thread Ondrej Kubik
Hi At the moment only security measure involved while installing click package is https connection to click store. Click package itself is not signed. At the same time even RTM image will have enabled side loading. This opens potential risk that installed application can be "upgraded" with trojan

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:00:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Personally, I'm fine with it being in #ubuntu-release. I think we're already > much too fragmented and people are too comfortable in their own corner of the > project. Thanks for the feedback. That was my inclination too, but I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Andrew Hayzen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FYI the music-app still has a lifecycle exception so that would count to one of the qmlscene processes. (Probably the one with a large memory usage because of the bug popey mentioned https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1289804). We still have a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 20:03 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: >> Good catch, the more important question is: Why are two apps running >> in parallel? >> Our lifecycle policy does not allow for that. > > Well, if my understanding of the policy and its im

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 05.06.14

2014-06-05 Thread Omer Akram
Hello again, On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Omer Akram wrote: > > Hi! > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak < > lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com> wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> Still no promotions and still more firefighting. This means we are >> officially entering TRAI

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Interest] How to reset QML WebView?

2014-06-05 Thread Olivier Tilloy
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Николай Шатохин wrote: > import QtQuick 2.0 > import QtWebKit 3.0 > import QtWebKit.experimental 1.0 > > Item { > width: 640 > height: 480 > > signal closeWindow(); > > WebView > { > anchors.fill: parent > url: address >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 20:03 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: > Good catch, the more important question is: Why are two apps running > in parallel? > Our lifecycle policy does not allow for that. Well, if my understanding of the policy and its implementation is correct, then they are stopped/suspend, and s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 18:37 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: >> Here's the only output I managed to grab and paste before it froze:- >> >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7588543/ > > Not directly related to memory, but why are all the backgrounded apps > using

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Robert Park
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > Can we fix the CI train so that it doesn't reformat multi-line commit > messages in the MP into a single very long line of very hard to read > text? You can accomplish this today by just writing your own debian/changelog exactly as you want it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 05.06.14

2014-06-05 Thread Omer Akram
Hi! On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak < lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Still no promotions and still more firefighting. This means we are > officially entering TRAINCON-0 again meaning: no more blind landings > happening until we're back to norm

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 05.06.14

2014-06-05 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hello everyone! Still no promotions and still more firefighting. This means we are officially entering TRAINCON-0 again meaning: no more blind landings happening until we're back to normal. TRAINCON-0 might be a good thing in overall as we have been trying to recover from some other mischiefs hap

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 05.06.2014, 15:57 +0300 schrieb Alberto Mardegan: > On 06/05/2014 03:05 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > With the current quality of changelog entries people provide to us > > this is not possible at all. We have to dig into each and every > > changeset and actually need to unde

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Webapp developers - Container switch to using Oxide *only*

2014-06-05 Thread David Barth
Le 30/05/2014 14:49, David Barth a écrit : This is a heads up for Webapp developers. We would like to switch all webapps to the Oxide runtime. as soon as possible. The webapp-container has switched to Oxide for a few months and the feedback is generally very good. Oxide is performing much be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues

2014-06-05 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 06/05/2014 10:19 AM, Julien Funk wrote: > Hey we just had a quick talk about this with Rick and would love to have the > QA > team avengers helping out in a systematic way. If we can get some steps to > reproduce / tools that gather relevant info and steps to report that info -- > we > can ru

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 05.06.2014, 08:17 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > we discussed these tools at the sprint and I took a TODO home with me to > > implement proper script wrappers around these tools in the phablet-tools > > suite (i.e. resulting in phablet-memtest, phablet-powertest etc) so w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 11:22:25AM +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 04.06.2014, 11:07 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > Hi Colin, > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 06:44:08PM +0100, Colin Ian King wrote: > > > I suggest trying out smemstat which is my in my PPA: ppa:colin-king/white >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues

2014-06-05 Thread Julien Funk
Hey we just had a quick talk about this with Rick and would love to have the QA team avengers helping out in a systematic way. If we can get some steps to reproduce / tools that gather relevant info and steps to report that info -- we can run overnight etc. Let me know. ~J On Wed, Jun 4, 2014

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Colin Ian King
On 05/06/14 15:39, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 18:37 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: >> Here's the only output I managed to grab and paste before it froze:- >> >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7588543/ > > Not directly related to memory, but why are all the backgrounded apps > using > 6% CPU? An

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 05.06.2014, 10:34 -0400 schrieb Rodney Dawes: > Also, how does one get reasonable changelog entries that follow the > Debian style? It seems with CI train, we don't get very nice > debian/changelog entries. For example, for a manual upload to bump the > Standards-version, a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 18:37 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > Here's the only output I managed to grab and paste before it froze:- > > http://paste.ubuntu.com/7588543/ Not directly related to memory, but why are all the backgrounded apps using > 6% CPU? And why is Unity8 using almost 40%? What is crashin

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 14:05 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: > As one of the persons on the landing team who is in charge to nod off > packaging changes I will from today on *NOT ACK ANY PACKAGING CHANGES* > that do not: > > a) have a descriptive enough changelog entry so that a developer not > affili

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Leo Arias
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > As one of the persons on the landing team who is in charge to nod off > packaging changes I will from today on *NOT ACK ANY PACKAGING CHANGES* > that do not: > > a) have a descriptive enough changelog entry so that a developer not > affiliat

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Alberto Mardegan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/05/2014 03:05 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > With the current quality of changelog entries people provide to us > this is not possible at all. We have to dig into each and every > changeset and actually need to understand what code changes in > ther

[Ubuntu-phone] Developers: changelog quality

2014-06-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Due to new breakage with the upstart-app-launch renaming and thus (again) massive smoke test breakage we are again close to TRAINCON-0 ... During the last days the landing team had to research all this breakage, for which we would usually just skim over the changelogs on the utopic-changes

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 04.06.2014, 11:07 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > Hi Colin, > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 06:44:08PM +0100, Colin Ian King wrote: > > > I suggest trying out smemstat which is my in my PPA: ppa:colin-king/white > > > see: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/smemstat/ > > > one can