Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 08.10.2015, 16:02 -0600 schrieb Selene Scriven: > * Oliver Grawert wrote: > > (note that this is pretty close to the IOS model (which shows > > this is techincally possible) and is the reason that we are > > currently miles better in battery life than android in the same

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Pete Woods
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michi Henning > wrote: > >> you can indeed build apps in C++ if you want, but C++ is more complex to > >> understand and write (if you ever did a dynamic web page in your life > >> you likely know the basics of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Roman Shchekin
>> This is achieved through the use of a "Zygote" process and some clever copy-on-write page management The same thing was in Nokia N9 (MeeGo) - they used special process to speedup startup time. I think that such approach can be used in UP. 2015-10-09 12:49 GMT+03:00 Pete Woods : > > > On Thu,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Pete Woods wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michi Henning >> wrote: >> >> you can indeed build apps in C++ if you want, but C++ is more complex >> >> to >> >> understand and write (if you ever

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Michael Zanetti
On 09.10.2015 11:49, Pete Woods wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michi Henning > mailto:michi.henn...@canonical.com>> > wrote: > >> you can indeed build apps in C++ if you wa

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: > > > On 09.10.2015 11:49, Pete Woods wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß > > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michi Henning >> mailto:michi.henn...@canonical.com>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Thomas Voß
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: > > > On 09.10.2015 12:48, Thomas Voß wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 09.10.2015 11:49, Pete Woods wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß >>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Michael Zanetti
On 09.10.2015 12:48, Thomas Voß wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti > wrote: >> >> >> On 09.10.2015 11:49, Pete Woods wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß >> > wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Mic

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Benjamin Zeller
Am 09.10.2015 um 12:56 schrieb Thomas Voß: On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: On 09.10.2015 12:48, Thomas Voß wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: On 09.10.2015 11:49, Pete Woods wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Voß mailto:thom

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Richard Somlói
Could we somewhere find this result? I'm very excited because of this. :) 2015-10-09 13:20 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Zeller : > Am 09.10.2015 um 12:56 schrieb Thomas Voß: > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Michael Zanetti >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 09.10.2015 12:48, Thomas Voß wrote: >>> On Fri, O

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Benjamin Zeller
Am 09.10.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Richard Somlói: Could we somewhere find this result? I'm very excited because of this. :) In case we get the OK from security (please keep in mind that still could stop the whole thing), we will write a big and nice blogpost about it :). With figures and barcharts

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Richard Somlói
Thanks, that would be great. :) 2015-10-09 13:31 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Zeller : > Am 09.10.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Richard Somlói: > > Could we somewhere find this result? I'm very excited because of this. :) > > In case we get the OK from security (please keep in mind that still could > stop the whol

[Ubuntu-phone] About UITK releases

2015-10-09 Thread Zoltán Balogh
Hi, After following and participating to several discussions about the $SUBJECT I though that it is good idea to clarify few things :) The roadmap [1] of the UITK development is still valid. So the focus right now is the 1.3 version what is all about convergence and performance. The 1.3 vers

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-09 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Tilloy wrote on 02/10/15 11:55: > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas > wrote: > > ... >> A better solution, perhaps, would be to expand the Download >> Manager service. >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] About UITK releases

2015-10-09 Thread Zoltán Balogh
Hi, Sorry folks, I owe you a little correction: We have just released the official framework to 15.04.1 So if you want to opt to the UITK 1.3 you do not need to set -dev but to 15.04.1 in the mainifest file Also the UITK API deprecation in 1.3 version is possible only for those APIs that w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

2015-10-09 Thread Olivier Tilloy
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Olivier Tilloy wrote on 02/10/15 11:55: >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas >> wrote: >> >> ... >>> A better solution, perhaps, would be to expand the Download >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why js not c++?

2015-10-09 Thread Tyler Hicks
On 2015-10-09 13:20:35, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > Am 09.10.2015 um 12:56 schrieb Thomas Voß: > >On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Michael Zanetti > > wrote: > >> > >>On 09.10.2015 12:48, Thomas Voß wrote: > >>>On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michael Zanetti > >>> wrote: > > On 09.10.2015 11

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 09.10.15

2015-10-09 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hello everyone, OTA-7 testing continues. We landed all the additional silos and re-spun the candidate image. We included a small fix for Unity8 notifications, fix for UITK corner case of button-inside-label and a new system-settings with a few sound + security section changes. So far from the test