Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Unix One
On 04/05/2017 11:34 AM, Seth Ciango wrote: > * How difficult would a switch to GNOME be and how long would it take? I'm not sure this is the right path - I'm not sure how much GNOME has for mobile/touch interfaces. I think Qt/QML was the right choice, just not Unity/Mir - which ended up too

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Nick Luigi V. Eusebio
This could be the best time to call for Unity! We should stand united  On Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:05:18 AM PHT, Filip Dorosz wrote: Hello all. As we are all dead man walking I'm also interested in continuing what was started here. We must not let the spirit

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Setting up a developer environment

2017-04-05 Thread amon
Thanks for the responses. I'm only able to work this an hour or so here and there, so it may take awhile to reach my goal. Yesterday and today I tried to get an external disk mounted via USB on the M10. No joy. I tried 2,3 and 4TB disks. I have a special cable that connects to the M10's USB

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Kristijan Žic
There are some promising news on that front by Marius Gripsgard. He posted this on google plus: "I'm not giving up! I will do my best to keep Ubuntu touch and Unity8 standing on both it's legs! It will be hard. The Ubuntu touch wheel is still spinning, and it has enough momentum to spin until we

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Filip Dorosz
Hello all. As we are all dead man walking I'm also interested in continuing what was started here. We must not let the spirit die! Cheers, Filip. W dniu 05.04.2017 o 20:34, Seth Ciango pisze: This is liberating if we allow it to be. We're no longer forced to be Snap only while tethered to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Mitchell Reese
I'm interested, willing to wait and see what happens. M On 06/04/17 04:34, Seth Ciango wrote: This is liberating if we allow it to be. We're no longer forced to be Snap only while tethered to Unity8. We finally have control over the future of this project. The developer team needs to speak

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Seth, I love your approach to this! If canonical would give us a kernel and drivers for the hardware, we could take it from there. I would need a X driver ( not mir ), a driver for the sound hardware, a driver for the modem ( serial + AT commands ? ) and drivers for the other parts. (

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Kristijan Žic
I hope for that as well! I'm prepared to contribute my share. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:51 PM A. James Lewis wrote: > I definitely hope the work can be continued as an independent project > > On 05/04/17 19:34, Seth Ciango wrote: > > This is liberating if we allow it to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Kristijan Žic
Unity OS? On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:22 PM Kristijan Žic wrote: > I hope for that as well! I'm prepared to contribute my share. > > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:51 PM A. James Lewis wrote: > >> I definitely hope the work can be continued as an independent

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread A. James Lewis
I definitely hope the work can be continued as an independent project On 05/04/17 19:34, Seth Ciango wrote: This is liberating if we allow it to be. We're no longer forced to be Snap only while tethered to Unity8. We finally have control over the future of this project. The developer team

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] This is it...

2017-04-05 Thread Murphy, Mark
On 2017-04-05 20:27, Roman Shchekin wrote: > Yes, looks like dead end. > Thanks to everyone. It was a very interesting journey! > > Anyway little bit shocked that Mir and Unity8​ are about to close to, not > just Ubuntu Phone. > > Francisco Pina Martins | От: 5

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] This is it...

2017-04-05 Thread A. James Lewis
Did someone post the April Fools post a few days late? On 05/04/17 18:25, Francisco Pina Martins wrote: It's been one hell of a ride, but I guess this is it... Thanks for all the fish, I guess...

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día miércoles, abril 05, 2017 a las 08:23:54p. m. +0100, A. James Lewis escribió: > On 05/04/17 16:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Mitchell Reese > >>> > >>> wrote: > > So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Andrew Penkrat
I really liked the idea of convergence. Ubuntu Phone also served me as a good fallback alternative for Sailfish OS. Now there's no choice for mobile and no convergent Linux at all which makes me sad. Some info for those interested in switching to Sailfish now: - Small list of officially

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] This is it...

2017-04-05 Thread Roman Shchekin
Yes, looks like dead end. Thanks to everyone. It was a very interesting journey! Anyway little bit shocked that Mir and Unity8​ are about to close to, not just Ubuntu Phone. Francisco Pina Martins | От: 5 апр. 2017 г. 20:26 | Сообщение:It's been one hell of a ride, but

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread A. James Lewis
On 05/04/17 16:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Mitchell Reese wrote: So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! ... And why have you switched to this at all?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread NeoTheThird
Me too. It looks good and behaves exactly the way i need it to. Sad to see it go. I never got why so many people hated it. On 05.04.2017 21:16, ajalkane wrote: Actually, I have to add that not withstanding Ubuntu Phone, I am personally affected because I actually like Unity. On Wed, Apr 5,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread ajalkane
Actually, I have to add that not withstanding Ubuntu Phone, I am personally affected because I actually like Unity. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:15 PM, ajalkane wrote: > I'm sad because I always was huge fan of Ubuntu Phone's dedication to open > source. I'm not surprised

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread ajalkane
I'm sad because I always was huge fan of Ubuntu Phone's dedication to open source. I'm not surprised because they were (in my opinion unnecessarily) doing too much and going too much against the grain considering where rest of Linux ecosystem was headed, and it was clear that this kind of approach

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Vincas Dargis
2017.04.05 20:56, Jamie Gunn rašė: Sad news, so where do we go now? Could it be https://plasma-mobile.org/ ? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help :

[Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Seth Ciango
This is liberating if we allow it to be. We're no longer forced to be Snap only while tethered to Unity8. We finally have control over the future of this project. The developer team needs to speak to the community on this. - Who is willing to stick around? - How difficult would a switch to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Eran Benjamin
When he says ditching unity, does he also mean the unity desktop? I actually like the unity desktop, there are many distros with good gnome desktops, I use ubuntu as desktop mainly because unity has matured nicely. Now, if only someone found a way to install sailfish on those reasonably

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Paul Tait
Can't say I am surprised. I think we all knew this was coming, we were just in denial. With the end of support for the phones and no new devices planned it was inevitable. I think we were hoping that phones would be able to continue in some form because of Unity8 but this puts pay to that too.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread ale roncador
Is this real? Truly is an inglorious end for this ambitious project Il mercoledì 5 aprile 2017, NeoTheThird ha scritto: > Well, we asked for it: https://insights.ubuntu.com/20 > 17/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone- > and-convergence/ > > Something in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Martin Windisch
SailfishOS? - at least for Nexus 4+5 and soon for Xperia devices … (starting with the X) > Absender:Jamie Gunn > An:Mathijs Veen > Cc:Ubuntu Touch > Betreff:[Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Gerd Sänger
Am 05.04.2017 um 19:51 schrieb ale roncador: > Is this real? > Truly is an inglorious end for this ambitious project > > Il mercoledì 5 aprile 2017, NeoTheThird > ha scritto: > > Well, we asked for it: > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Jamie Gunn
Sad news, so where do we go now? On 5 Apr 2017 18:41, "Mathijs Veen" wrote: utterly gutted On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:28 PM, miguel pires wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cl >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Yasmany Cubela Medina
This looks like a late aprils fools i really dont get a thing of that post On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:49 PM Nicolas Delvaux wrote: > This is especially confusing since just today there was another blog > post explaining what is being worked on for Ubuntu 18.04

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
This is especially confusing since just today there was another blog post explaining what is being worked on for Ubuntu 18.04 regarding X apps in a Unity 8/Mir world. http://gould.cx/ted/blog/2017/04/05/X11-apps-on-Ubuntu-Personal/ So even Canonical employees were not informed of this? Mark's

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread Mathijs Veen
utterly gutted On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:28 PM, miguel pires wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for- > cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ > > *This is from the post from Mark Shuttleworth* > > > "I’m writing to let you know

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Francisco Pina Martins
A sad thing to read, indeed. I'm really not sure what to do now. I never liked Android, and an iThing gives me the shivers just to think about. I still have to digest this. On Wednesday, 5 April 2017, Gareth France wrote: > I feel like I could cry right now. I'm

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Tony Scott
On 5 April 2017 at 18:19, NeoTheThird wrote: > Well, we asked for it: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ Oh. I understand the process that resulted in Mark's post. I just think it's a pity the

[Ubuntu-phone] This is it...

2017-04-05 Thread Francisco Pina Martins
It's been one hell of a ride, but I guess this is it... Thanks for all the fish, I guess... https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ Francisco -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to :

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Gareth France
I feel like I could cry right now. I'm back on android and hating every moment. I have been poised to make a grab for the next device to be released with snap based UT. I don't want to have to stick with android, god no! On 05/04/17 18:19, NeoTheThird wrote: Well, we asked for it:

[Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-05 Thread miguel pires
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ *This is from the post from Mark Shuttleworth* "I’m writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell. We will shift our default Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread NeoTheThird
Well, we asked for it: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ Something in me just died. On 05.04.2017 18:13, NeoTheThird wrote: I'm totally on board the android sucks train. As of the M10 Tablet, i think there is an

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread NeoTheThird
I'm totally on board the android sucks train. As of the M10 Tablet, i think there is an *experimental* build now with snaps working additionally to clicks. It's still very basic, i can't stress that enough, but i've seen some command line snaps working. An official road-map would be totally

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Wilfridd
+1 Definitely BR Wilfrid On Wednesday, 5 April 2017 10:24:18 CEST, Mitchell Reese wrote: So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! Will flash back shortly - any update yet on snaps,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Mitchell Reese wrote: So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! ... And why have you switched to this at all? I'm hoping that my BQ E4.5 wiil last

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Tony Scott
+1 -- Tony Scott https://tonyscott.org.uk On 5 April 2017 at 14:14, Mathijs Veen wrote: > +1 on all of the above questions! > > Cheers, > > Mathijs > > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Mitchell Reese > wrote: >> >> So have been trying Android

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Mathijs Veen
+1 on all of the above questions! Cheers, Mathijs On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Mitchell Reese wrote: > So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - > arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! Will flash back shortly > - any update

[Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Mitchell Reese
So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! Will flash back shortly - any update yet on snaps, and the next stage for where touch is going? I'm particularly interested in the M10 tablet - has the landing channel advanced