[Ubuntu-phone] just give up?

2017-04-06 Thread Georges Thill
Hi all, Somehow at first I did not believe it when I read the news. Ubuntu is giving up on phones and convergence. To put this in the right context, I was one of the early Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding supporters. I currently own multiple Ubuntu touch devices and have actively been supporting bug t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-06 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Will work on ubuntu phone continue? > > >> In a word: No. >> > > Could it perhaps be rebooted as a community effort, and shared vision? > > Yes, any Free Software product can be turned into a community effort. But if the problem is a lack of a revenue model, then I think adding a revenue model

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Death is Not an Option

2017-04-06 Thread Felipe De La Puente
Hi All, I'm pretty sure there will be people(Myself included) interested to continue this effort with the goal of having a non-compromised OS alternative for mobile devices and the vision of converged computing and so on... however, in my opinion, right now is a good moment to identify what we as

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-06 Thread Tony Scott
Melvin - the answer to your question https://plus.google.com/u/0/110699558853693437587/posts/7RHujp9u7oW -- Tony Scott https://tonyscott.org.uk On 6 April 2017 at 22:27, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > > On 6 April 2017 at 21:49, Roberto Resoli wrote: >> >> Il 06/04/2017 21:31, Melvin Carvalho ha

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Death is Not an Option

2017-04-06 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 6 April 2017 at 21:57, Wayne Taylor wrote: > There are two ways to view this kind of a day: > > 1) the end of something good - the death of a loved one or > > 2) the start of something new, the beginning of a new thing > > It's both. > > I've been a side-line participant always handicapped by

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-06 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 6 April 2017 at 21:49, Roberto Resoli wrote: > Il 06/04/2017 21:31, Melvin Carvalho ha scritto: > > On 5 April 2017 at 19:28, miguel pires > wrote: > > > >> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for- > >> cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ > >> > >> *This is from

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Death is Not an Option

2017-04-06 Thread Tony Scott
https://plus.google.com/u/0/110699558853693437587/posts/7RHujp9u7oW https://unity8.org/ -- Tony Scott https://tonyscott.org.uk On 6 April 2017 at 20:57, Wayne Taylor wrote: > There are two ways to view this kind of a day: > > 1) the end of something good - the death of a loved one or > > 2) th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-06 Thread Tony Scott
https://plus.google.com/u/0/110699558853693437587/posts/7RHujp9u7oW -- Tony Scott https://tonyscott.org.uk On 6 April 2017 at 20:49, Roberto Resoli wrote: > Il 06/04/2017 21:31, Melvin Carvalho ha scritto: >> On 5 April 2017 at 19:28, miguel pires wrote: >> >>> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Death is Not an Option

2017-04-06 Thread Wayne Taylor
There are two ways to view this kind of a day: 1) the end of something good - the death of a loved one or 2) the start of something new, the beginning of a new thing It's both. I've been a side-line participant always handicapped by my lack of time and my lack of skills. Unity and convergence

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-06 Thread Roberto Resoli
Il 06/04/2017 21:31, Melvin Carvalho ha scritto: > On 5 April 2017 at 19:28, miguel pires wrote: > >> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for- >> cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ >> >> *This is from the post from Mark Shuttleworth* >> >> >> "I’m writing to let yo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official end off Ubuntu Phone - Please read this because this is sad....

2017-04-06 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 5 April 2017 at 19:28, miguel pires wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for- > cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ > > *This is from the post from Mark Shuttleworth* > > > "I’m writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, > the phon

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A vision about what lies ahead

2017-04-06 Thread mark
The Xiaomi Mi Max is a 64-bit phone. I guess Personal could be made to run on it as it stands currently. m On 06/04/17 11:01, Kristijan Žic wrote: Some good news: http://www.unity8.org/ On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:05 PM Piotrek Mitana mailto:the.mail.of@gmail.com>> wrote: I don't th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A vision about what lies ahead

2017-04-06 Thread Piotrek Mitana
Well, that might be a part of something. But I would really like to see it as a part of bigger, convergence project... 2017-04-06 16:01 GMT+02:00 Kristijan Žic : > Some good news: http://www.unity8.org/ > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:05 PM Piotrek Mitana > wrote: > >> I don't think moving from Sna

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A vision about what lies ahead

2017-04-06 Thread Kristijan Žic
Some good news: http://www.unity8.org/ On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:05 PM Piotrek Mitana wrote: > I don't think moving from Snap to Flatpack will be the best idea. With > this we would lose the base of Ubuntu Core, which is all about snaps. We > could stick to deb base, but Ubuntu Core in my opinion

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A vision about what lies ahead

2017-04-06 Thread Piotrek Mitana
I don't think moving from Snap to Flatpack will be the best idea. With this we would lose the base of Ubuntu Core, which is all about snaps. We could stick to deb base, but Ubuntu Core in my opinion wonderfully separates the layers - kernel is one snap, additional hardware support is the second (ga

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A vision about what lies ahead

2017-04-06 Thread Andrew Penkrat
+1 for every point. I'd also suggest to consider using flatpak instead of snaps, but not sure if it's reasonable. Regards, Andrew Penkrat On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 at 10:48 Piotrek Mitana wrote: > Hello, I'm new to here. > > Although I've not been active on mailing lists and on Google+, I've been > ea

[Ubuntu-phone] Some questions to the Ubuntu Phone Team

2017-04-06 Thread advocatux
Hi y'all, While still digesting that Shuttleworth announcement I've some questions to whoever can officially speak in the name of Ubuntu/Canonical. * When is the official EOL of Ubuntu phone project? * Related to the above point: Is going to be any security update? * When is the official dat

[Ubuntu-phone] A vision about what lies ahead

2017-04-06 Thread Piotrek Mitana
Hello, I'm new to here. Although I've not been active on mailing lists and on Google+, I've been eagerly observing the Ubuntu Touch from the very beginning. I've also bought a Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu a few months ago and I am generally happy with it (apart from some irritating bugs that Canonical never