Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Giving Up On Ubuntu Touch

2013-08-12 Thread Josh Leverette
Or, possibly, just possibly, the team is super busy finishing the product that will actually ship to customers, rather than spending time answering questions a dozen times over. That's my interpretation, at least. On Aug 12, 2013 6:51 AM, "Abimanyu G" wrote: > I have been waiting for Android and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-05 Thread Josh Leverette
Yes. Shuttleworth has even said that the *entire* purpose of this campaign is to judge if there's a market for *super high end* phones. Adding a mid range phone just to make this campaign succeed does not measure the market appeal of the superphones, and it doesn't make manufacturing those superpho

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-05 Thread Josh Leverette
lower end device = more affordable = more buyers = larger volume = entering the hardware market On top of that, they'd then be offering two separate devices, with two separate manufacturing chains, with much greater costs on their end that they'd have to recoup. I want this project to succeed, be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (constructive criticism/advice on Canonical's approach)

2013-08-04 Thread Josh Leverette
No, you missed the point entirely. This is a "halo device." Whether it sells a single one is entirely irrelevant. Its purpose is not to sell in large quantities, and it isn't meant for people who are short on cash. This is a device meant for people who want the very best and have the money to get i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Moto X Porting

2013-08-01 Thread Josh Leverette
The Motorola Droid Mini will be an excellent piece of hardware when it becomes available for purchase, and is about the size of an iPhone and manages to cram a bigger screen into that same size body. Whether it is locked or unlocked will determine how easy it is to run Ubuntu touch on it. The HTC O

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Moto X Porting

2013-08-01 Thread Josh Leverette
We don't actually know if it will be unlocked. Traditionally, Motorola phones have been very tightly locked. If it is unlocked, someone will surely create a port for it. Canonical is only officially supporting Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10, insofar as I'm aware, but they created a tutorial to help

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-31 Thread Josh Leverette
m >>>>> >>>>>> Farewell to 3G is more than welcome. Glad Ubuntu edge will be a 4G >>>>>> phone! >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel Clem 이 씀: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No Problem, I bout fell over when

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone feature

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Leverette
W asks. This is already included in many > phones, probably yours to. > > > 2013/7/30 Josh Leverette > >> This is not a simple request, and there is a lot of political reasoning >> that would rather WiFi calling not be possible for the average user. We >> don'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Full-disk Encryption on Touch?

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Leverette
android lens? On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Dienstag, den 30.07.2013, 08:32 -0500 schrieb Jamie Strandboge: > > On 07/30/2013 08:21 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > > And that configurability will inevitably reach Ubuntu phone, but I >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone feature

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Leverette
This is not a simple request, and there is a lot of political reasoning that would rather WiFi calling not be possible for the average user. We don't have access to the internal pieces of their network required for any of us to implement this technology and put them at a disadvantage. T-Mobile alre

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Full-disk Encryption on Touch?

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Leverette
And that configurability will inevitably reach Ubuntu phone, but I don't know if it will make it into the v1.0 release. Here's the related document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Greg W wrote: > Sure, I understand everyone is tracked.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone feature

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Leverette
WiFi calling can already be done on all existing smartphones (Ubuntu phone not yet included) by 3rd party applications. What you suggest *cannot* be integrated with your carrier unless they choose to build that functionality into the phone as an app. Look into Line2, Skype, Viber, and similar appli

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Full-disk Encryption on Touch?

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Leverette
1) Read at least the first 3 or 4 posts here: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1j166z/hi_im_mark_shuttleworth_founder_of_ubuntu/cba28et 2) It might require a little work, but yes. it should be possible to disable lenses, but I doubt that functionality will be built-in in the initial release (

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-29 Thread Josh Leverette
o, >>> which might boost sales by a little bit more. Hopefully this clarifies my >>> point. There lines are very smooth. If a company bought 100 units all at >>> once, there would be a visible blip on the graph, in my opinion. That would >>> be $60,000 in pledg

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-25 Thread Josh Leverette
ARM. that was answered earlier in this thread. On Jul 25, 2013 12:24 AM, "Omar B." wrote: > So, ARM or Intel ? > > http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/6/4306956/intel-silvermont-atom- > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Nexus 7 2

2013-07-24 Thread Josh Leverette
Is the galaxy nexus or the Nexus 4 the primary phone development device? I think it will be similar with the two versions of the Nexus 7, which is to say they're both well supported. To be honest though, the current Nexus 7 has been the least well supported device, because of Tegra 3 and just the g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Josh Leverette
back when the $600 model was on sale. The respectable slope on the right is the result of the new, lower priced options that became available today. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > Ok guys, so, the new, lower, and rather ephemeral price points have had a > very po

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Josh Leverette
Ok guys, so, the new, lower, and rather ephemeral price points have had a very positive impact. Here's the newest funds-raised graph, as of a couple of minutes ago. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > PayPal lets you pay using a cre

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Josh Leverette
PayPal lets you pay using a credit card? generally, PayPal lets you make one time payments without an account, as well, but this might be a little different as it is crowdfunding. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Luke Bryan wrote: > Definitely something I'd like to support... but why does this

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Josh Leverette
Yes, they're all the same. The $625 and $675 ones are only available in a limited quantity. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Jean-Marc Gailis wrote: > I want to know if the Edge at 625 $ or 675 $ the same that at 830 $?? > Can Canonical answer to my question? > > Jean-Marc Gailis > Janis-Marks

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
option >>>> ran out. Calculating the trend line for the second half of the graph >>>> indicates that the campaign will raise about $20,000,000 total over the >>>> full period of the campaign, which is not enough. I believe that this is >>>> the reason C

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
aniel Clem wrote: > If that trend holds there will be a total of almost 80,000,000. Obviously > it will have ups and downs, but even half that average would reach the > goal. Will re-investigate GSM's signal strength in my area, as well as data > plans. > > > Josh Leverett

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
which would break the monotony of the > graph. > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > I'm not saying companies *couldn't* buy from the indiegogo deal. I'm just > saying the companies with the money to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
are very smooth. If a company bought 100 units all at once, there would be a visible blip on the graph, in my opinion. That would be $60,000 in pledges all at once, which would break the monotony of the graph. [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
price. Say less than >> 80 a month for data. >> >> I have barely made it out of contract with this Motor Droid 2 (3rd >> replacement) , hence why I and searching hard for a solid device. I can >> make a case for the Edge no big deal. >> >> >> Josh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
I'm not saying companies *couldn't* buy from the indiegogo deal. I'm just saying the companies with the money to buy from this fundraiser wouldn't be able to move fast enough to have gotten in on the 1st day of sales. Companies move slowly for the most part, and I was watching the sales figures car

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
Say less than 80 > a month for data. > > I have barely made it out of contract with this Motor Droid 2 (3rd > replacement) , hence why I and searching hard for a solid device. I can > make a case for the Edge no big deal. > > > Josh Leverette wrote: >> >> Hmm.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
l months after the fund ends. > Requesting 1 or 2 thousand CDMA should be that hard. Or since this is > flagged as a "Open Device ” why not pioneer the first LTE capable Combo > phone? CDMA+GSM. Only using the one you need. So later if you wish you can > jump to any carrier you can im

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo yesterday. There might have been one or two, but that's simply not what happened. This whole campaign is all about individuals buying these phones. I don't want to see this campaign fail anymore than you do. People will either buy them at $830

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
yeah. I agree. There will be plenty of mid and low end Ubuntu phones eventually. This is not one of those. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Simon wrote: > This campain isn't (mainly) about selling Ubuntu Touch. It is to tell > manufacturers: "Hey there is a demand for Smartphones with power bey

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [design] [development] Some thoughts about Ubuntu touch on the Nexus 10

2013-07-23 Thread Josh Leverette
? >> >> The proper place to file these complaints is the bug tracker.. if you >> want to help get them squashed that is. >> >> >> On 11/07/2013 22:56, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >> I've been trying for days to find time to write these bug report

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
te: > > How can you get burned? You donate $600, the campaign makes it to $32M, > you get an Ubuntu Edge, if not, you're not out a dime. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Mike Bybee wrote: > >> On 07/22/2013 12:05 PM, Sam Bull wrote: >> >> On Mon, 20

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
> >>> and have the 600$. It's only 20$ from me today... > >>> > >>> I'm pretty sure not all the details are layed down specifically because > >>> they need the money first > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Joey

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
ahhh. Or forever hold your peace (and browse eBay.) first I sent it only to him, then I missed a line when sending it to the full list... blah. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 22, 2013 7:05 PM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > it will not be 64 bit. No such ARM chips are even available yet. Proba

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
yed down specifically because >>> they need the money first >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Joey Carlini wrote: >>> >>>> Misunderstood Andrew's email, that's his signature... *facepalm* >>>> >>>> >>>> O

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
I don't understand your question. All Android and Ubuntu smartphones do multitasking. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Joey Carlini wrote: > If it's a multicore, then multitasking is built in, right? > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >&g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >>> It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sure. >>> >> >> Yes, it will be an ARM SoC. &

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
g wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >>> It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sure. >>> >> >> Yes, it will be an ARM SoC. >> > > -- Sincerely, Josh -- Mailing lis

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
nding slows down, but for now, it's exciting to see the number ticking upwards. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sur

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
make or break, but Steam on a Mobile would be awesome... > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> Pay $600, or $830, depending on when you buy it. I can't justify spending >> that much on a smartphone right now. >> >> >> On M

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
Pay $600, or $830, depending on when you buy it. I can't justify spending that much on a smartphone right now. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Andrea Pivetta wrote: > Il 22/07/2013 20:20, Josh Leverette ha scritto: > > It does look pretty awesome... wish I could get one. > &

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Josh Leverette
It does look pretty awesome... wish I could get one. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > Haven't seen it mentioned here yet, and someone else just pointed it out > to me. > > There's an Indiegogo campaign for a new phone from Canonical. It looks > amazing and there's a one-day pr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Leverette
and thinks > that we both wanted the same thing all the time. > > > 2013/7/21 Josh Leverette > >> Nothing. Omar asked a question about a corner case. I answered him, and >> then you started saying things that made no sense as a response to what I >> was saying. M

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Leverette
#x27;t really understand what you want to change? > > > 2013/7/21 Josh Leverette > >> I'm not talking about putting this on a 7" tablet. You haven't been >> listening to me. >> >> There are three form factors. >> -Desktop >> -Tablet >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Leverette
op interface you should > use the desktop interface, you shouldn't make the tablet interface > become the desktop interface. You can run the touch apps in the > desktop interface aswell. > > > 2013/7/21 Josh Leverette > >> Interacting with it as a tablet does not lim

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Leverette
of changing stuff, probably to the worse. Before you go in > and totally change how one interface would work you need to have a > very clear plan of what you are doing and why you are doing that. > The latter part of that is why use cases would need to be written. > > > 2013/7

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Leverette
navigate if it looks good > that would be a bonus. > To do this we have to say, "this feature should be in because it's needed > and works". Not just > "this feature looks cool, lets add it". > > Could someone write some good use cases for a multi window/mor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Leverette
I still don't understand. Why do you want to go into tablet mode, since that only means everything is fullscreen, as far as we know. You can still maximize things and then they're essentially fullscreen, if that's what you want, but realistically.. why would you on a large screen? Sincerely, Josh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Leverette
What is the difference? We really don't know what unity 8 for the desktop looks like. But, based on logical induction, the only significant difference is that you can move things around and resize them as windows in one, and they're all fullscreen in the other. You can still run the same apps in de

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Leverette
What the difference? We really don't know what unity 8 for the desktop looks like. But, based on logical induction, the only significant difference is that you can move things around and resize them as windows in one, and they're all fullscreen in the other. You can still run the same apps in deskt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Leverette
A 20" screen definitely qualifies for desktop mode. I don't think it would be running tablet style at that point. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Omar B. wrote: > >The tablet interface have the side view and personally I think that is > good. Anything more wouldn't be good. > > Well that most

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Power management policy

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Leverette
uly 19, 2013, Mike Bybee wrote: > >> On 07/19/2013 09:04 AM, Thomas Voß wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Mike Bybee >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 07/19/2013 08:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >>>> &g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Power management policy

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Leverette
The spec looks very promising. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Thomas Voß wrote: > Hey there, > > you might be interested in: > > * > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-add-app-model-and-lifecycle-to-platform-api > * and the corresponding spec in: > > https://docs.go

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Power management policy

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Leverette
to throttle something actually means to slow it down, just for future reference. But, yes. A less rigorously enforced policy that mimics what Apple does with background apps is something I would approve of. If an application asks permission to run in the background, then that's fine, but I don't w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-18 Thread Josh Leverette
uld not be available at all. In a number of countries, SMS is much cheaper than data, also. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 13:56 -0500, Josh Leverette wrote: > > The phone number approach was being used to authenticate SMS > > communication

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-18 Thread Josh Leverette
The phone number approach was being used to authenticate SMS communications. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 20:26 +0200, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > > >If you're going to handle key creation and exchange invisibly, what > > use is GPG? > > Because we would w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

2013-07-18 Thread Josh Leverette
What about contractor ? On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > I just realized that you can use the URL concept for MIME types to: > mime://image/png&file://path/to/file.png or something like that > would work well. > > >Sure and in the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-18 Thread Josh Leverette
secure?" > Not by default I would say no. But we should have that as an option to > automatically restore > your key when you change device and to sync it to your desktop. > > > 2013/7/18 Josh Leverette > >> asymmetric encryption of some kind would probably be prefer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-18 Thread Josh Leverette
asymmetric encryption of some kind would probably be preferred. Possibly using quantum computer proof asymmetric encryption. (look at Wikipedia, I'm on my phone at the moment, or I would provide a link.) As far as email goes, that is notably more complex than SMS to handle. The question becomes "d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

2013-07-18 Thread Josh Leverette
I agree. A pluggable architecture (like Android's Intents) would be better than hard coding. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 18, 2013 12:09 PM, "Rasmus Eneman" wrote: I really like a MIME type only approach for this because that makes apps pluggable. If you for example have an app called barcode scanner

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
. > > THREE > OR design an encryption proxy which will work on all unified messages, why > not ? the whole trend is towards unified messaging, nothing stopping you > from SMS encryption by that means. > > > On 18 Jul, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > &qu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
y for example if an operator give 200/month is a great deal. >> I think that the XMPP approach is more useful, because (almost) free >> 3G/4G data access is more reliable and easy to use. >> Il giorno 17/lug/2013 20:57, "Josh Leverette" ha >> scritto: >> >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
an link up to 4 SMSes. > However an XMPP based service would still be better as key exchange may > happen automagically. You have > already broken the standard so why continue to use it when you only gets > its limitations? > > > 2013/7/17 Josh Leverette > >> Also, I d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
t;> 2013/7/17 Mike Bybee >> >>> Thanks. I think with PRISM and it's various world-wide equivalents, >>> we're all thinking about this. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >>> >>>&

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
I'm still waiting on the actual native email client to be written. Once that happens, adding encryption should be relatively trivial. So, whenever that happens. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike Bybee wrote: > Are there currently any plans to make sure the ubuntu mail app will > support gpg

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: GPS - Navigation app

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
in the coming weeks, > that if I dont finally get to working on the music app. > > Osm seems to be surprisingly up to date on my home town in eastern europe > as well as my small suburb in northern england... It even has a lot of > things that have not been updated in google maps in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - Navigation app

2013-07-17 Thread Josh Leverette
OpenStreetMap. Look at OSMAnd. A quality nav program for android that uses OSM. it's better than Apple maps, at least, haha On Jul 17, 2013 7:30 AM, "Zisu Andrei" wrote: > Well, you could do some lobbying to get that as a core app, but you will > need a good plan, and it will probably not be unti

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
Go to the home screen, click and hold on the camera app, then tap the X. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:09 PM, scott wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/14/2013 08:18 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > > I have a hack to build it. On my phone now, will do full reply > > tom

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
en this happen, > have a good day > Joseph > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> XMir's purpose is to provide an X compatibility layer. Mir provides no >> such compatibility. So, when running XMir on top of Mir, you can run X >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] marketing opportunity

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
Yes, that is how it works. Once you install a program, it can be launched from anywhere you can launch a normal Linux program, including double clicking it. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 15, 2013 11:56 AM, "Sam Bull" wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 23:37 +0800, leon lee wrote: > > When it's clicked, the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
I guess that I could build xmir and test this theory out. I > will post my findings. > > Joseph > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> android? android is disappearing from within Ubuntu touch. it'll only be >> used as a dr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
android? android is disappearing from within Ubuntu touch. it'll only be used as a driver layer. But yes. the answer to your question is yes. they will run. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 15, 2013 11:45 AM, "Joseph Mills" wrote: > I would hope not. But are you sure that that is going to run on a stacke

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
e (don't get me started on LibreOffice). > > On Monday, July 15, 2013, Michael Spencer wrote: > >> On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >> I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, >> iOS does have a good office sui

[Ubuntu-phone] [development] AirPrint support

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
AirPrint is remarkably similar to CUPS, with a few small modifications to the usage model. I'd love to see support for AirPrint built into both Ubuntu touch and into the SDK so developers can have no-effort printing from their apps. Unlike AirPlay or whatever else, implementing this should be rel

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
I'd like to think so, but they've got enough on their plate for this release cycle. Hopefully for 14.04 it can be a core app. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Michael Spencer wrote: > On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > I'd be interested in the answer t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that *we* don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet. On Mon, Ju

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] marketing opportunity

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
For gaming, yes. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:33 AM, leon lee wrote: > > wine on arm will only run arm windows binaries ... (not windows RT, but > winCE or opensource stuff compiled for CE) > > really? that's bad news. > > -- 原始邮件 -- > *发件人:* "Oliver Grawert"; > *发

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] marketing opportunity

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
At this point, Wine cannot run x86 (Intel/AMD) games on ARM. But, as far as friendly interfaces go, PlayOnLinux is fairly friendly. CrossOver is the other option, but it does cost money. Personally, I don't think Wine is diffi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Compiling armhf binaries for a phone target - toolchain from where?

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
If the size of the program makes compiling the code on the device practical, then that would be my personally recommended place to compile it. But, cross compilation *should* work. This is what I found: http://askubuntu.com/questions/250696/cross-compile-for-arm On Jul 15, 2013 5:20 AM, "John McAl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-15 Thread Josh Leverette
15:03 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question > From: gianguidor...@gmail.com > To: coder...@gmail.com > CC: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net; luke...@msn.com > > And after all Ubuntu doesn't use Java, so I think that memory consumption > will remain at a rea

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
mory question > From: gianguidor...@gmail.com > To: coder...@gmail.com > CC: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net; luke...@msn.com > > And after all Ubuntu doesn't use Java, so I think that memory consumption > will remain at a reasonable level. > Il giorno 13/lug/2013 21:06, &qu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
yeah, sorry for the lack of response. It's too early on to know. if you bought it, you might succeed or you might fail. Chinese tablets typically contain poorly documented chips. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 14, 2013 4:08 PM, "Jackson Doak" wrote: > OK, I'll wait for something cheap to already have it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
;> On 14 July 2013 13:06, Mark Guthrie wrote: >> >>> Would it not be better to have dependent layouts based on the device >>> similar to device specific CSS for websites? >>> On Jul 14, 2013 7:04 AM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: >>> >>>> P

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
Permanently up, and moved to the top. That's my idea of a simple step in the right direction. I mean, it's fine being at the bottom on desktop, it's just the opposite of normal. We could move the window control bar (maximize, minimize, etc.) to the bottom too and see how that goes... but I don't kn

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-13 Thread Josh Leverette
and sending out a signal when memory is running low would be nice. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 13, 2013 11:28 AM, "Luke Bryan" wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering about apps for Ubuntu-touch regarding memory. Will > ubuntu-touch have the (somewhat annoying) feature of killing off apps that > go o

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-13 Thread Josh Leverette
Android only does that when it has to, meaning devices with low memory available. I'm sure Ubuntu will kill apps when it has to, and not a moment sooner. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 13, 2013 11:28 AM, "Luke Bryan" wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering about apps for Ubuntu-touch regarding memory. W

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [design] [development] Some thoughts about Ubuntu touch on the Nexus 10

2013-07-11 Thread Josh Leverette
I've been trying for days to find time to write these bug reports, but I just haven't been able to. If no one else writes them up, I'll try to, but I'm not sure when I'll have time. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Jono Bacon wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Josh Leverette
It doesn't look professional for it to *not* connect. The only solution to this discussion that seems reasonable to me is to have the 1st boot screen provide a two button UI where you can select to turn on mobile data or to continue with it remaining turned off. My experience is that the default b

[Ubuntu-phone] [design] [development] Some thoughts about Ubuntu touch on the Nexus 10

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Leverette
So, for the first time in months, I decided to wipe my carefully configured version of Android in order to try out Ubuntu touch. A few things struck me immediately. - The return to home animation *still* lags. Why?!? This is *the most* noticeable piece of lag in the whole OS. Come on guys... grab

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] port Ubuntu Touch to Samsung i7500

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Leverette
it is based on an ARM11 processor, and last I heard, Ubuntu does not support that old of a processor at all. the microarchitecture is not supported. Even if it could run on that microarch, it would be an unpleasant experience because of how unimaginably slow that class of processor is, and the inte

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Miracast Support with Mir

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Leverette
This is actually a good point. I'd love to see straight AirPlay mirroring support integrated into the default build. This is a fairly extensive unofficial spec for the protocol. I wonder if anyone with more technical display-oriented knowledge than I have would

[Ubuntu-phone] [devel] [development] Qt 5.1

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Leverette
http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/07/03/qt-5-1-released/ Qt 'widgets' and Qt Sensors both seem like they could be beneficial to some extent, among other things. -- Sincerely, Josh -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscrib

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Voice Recognition

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Leverette
tion to help you avoid traffic and the likes. > > > That's exactly what he said > > Zisu Andrei > > > On 27 June 2013 17:18, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> a standalone GPS has no network connection, period. Smartphone GPS apps >> use the connection to he

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UI Toolkit API update: Theming

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Leverette
Does anyone know if Ubuntu touch will support old-world style theming? Back in the day, I remember Gnome 2 being extremely themeable. Ubuntu touch will be using standardized controls all drawn via Qt. It seems like system-wide user theme support would be fairly straightforward to support, with app

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Emergency call

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Leverette
how would you click the SOS signal? and how would the power button distinguish between a normal click and an emergency click? it is important to be able to contact emergency response teams, but not accidentally doing it is even more important, otherwise it will be a "boy who cries wolf" situation.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Voice Recognition

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Leverette
t;HUD voice interaction". Some >>> of my propositions are obsolete after 3 months from writing, some are >>> outright stupid, but bear with my article:D >>> >>> I tried desperately to get on the unity-design mailing list but it seems >>> there is no on

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Voice Recognition

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Leverette
there seems to be a basic system for voice recognition, designed to control the currently open app based on a limited command vocabulary. I'm curious if there are any plans for a Siri-like assistant, maybe for the 14.04 release? and how accurate is the dictation software? is it good enough for stra

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [design] Intended usage of the page stack navigation model

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Leverette
ed out. It sounds like we really just need a file manager, music player, and an email client before this initial release is ready feature-wise, so the team is getting close. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Michael Spencer wrote: > On 06/26/2013 08:33 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > I'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [design] Intended usage of the page stack navigation model

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Leverette
I'd also like to see some official opinions from the design team about all of this. Solid Explorer (the best file manager on Android) uses a single view rather than a page stack, and it works very well, but I have no opinion about whether a page stack is good or bad for a file manager. It seems lik

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Leverette
I agree completely with this statement. Even if they do think about usability, they just don't care unless someone draws a line in the sand and says "you have to make it at least this good." On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Zisu Andrei wrote: > I would hope it becomes obvious when those kind of

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