Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-12-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Forgive me for my comments, but let me backtrack a little on the email chain a little and make a comment here... I see that Ursula said there's a policy to get teams added to the bugsquad team if they're upstream teams. That's not exactly correct, you probably meant "bugcontrol" based on the sent

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-30 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, whilst I'm still keeping my head down; I've forwarded this to Nicholas as there has been conversation of merging QA and bug team and I think he should be aware of the conversation. Kindest regards, Phill. On 30 November 2013 06:06, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Michał, > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michał, On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:33:00AM +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 26.11.2013 02:44, Ursula Junque wrote: > >If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against > >Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. Once we > >have an agreement, we need to doc

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-29 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Fr, 2013-11-29 at 10:11 +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 27.11.2013 19:06, Ursula Junque wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Michał Sawicz > > mailto:michal.saw...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > > I just tried to file a bug against Ubuntu (unity8)¹, unfortunately I > > can't

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-29 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 27.11.2013 23:09, Luke Faraone wrote: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl#Requirements_for_Teams Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of "required"s and "must"s there, that I'm not comfortable to comply with/enforce for my team just for the sake of us being able to triage bugs for the few

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-29 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 27.11.2013 19:06, Ursula Junque wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Michał Sawicz mailto:michal.saw...@canonical.com>> wrote: I just tried to file a bug against Ubuntu (unity8)¹, unfortunately I can't set the status to 'Triaged', or decide the importance. So, well... I can'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-28 Thread Luke Faraone
On 27 November 2013 13:06, Ursula Junque wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Michał Sawicz < > michal.saw...@canonical.com> wrote: > >> On 26.11.2013 02:44, Ursula Junque wrote: >> >>> If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against >>> Ubuntu packages, discouraging t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-28 Thread Luke Faraone
Hello, On 26 November 2013 08:58, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomi Richards < >> thomi.richa...@canonical.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque wrote: >>> If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against >>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-27 Thread Ursula Junque
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Sergio Schvezov < sergio.schve...@canonical.com> wrote: > Totally out of thread, but > > http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21840/community-1308-quality-reporting-bugs/ > with > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1308-quality-reporting

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-27 Thread Sergio Schvezov
Totally out of thread, but http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21840/community-1308-quality-reporting-bugs/ with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1308-quality-reporting-bugs and then http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21857/foundations-1308-click-error-reporting

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-27 Thread Ursula Junque
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 26.11.2013 02:44, Ursula Junque wrote: > >> If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against >> Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. Once we >> have an agreement, we need to document this to prev

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-27 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 26.11.2013 02:44, Ursula Junque wrote: If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. Once we have an agreement, we need to document this to prevent all the confusion to happen again, and then discuss what to do

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-27 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2013, 22:33 -0600 schrieb Ted Gould: > I think that points out the core of the issue. Several of the > projects that Canonical develops, that are used in Ubuntu Touch, are > used by other interfaces/spins/etc. Really, it would be much better > if the Ubuntu Touch bugs w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 15:55 +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 26.11.2013 14:54, Ursula Junque wrote: > > I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old > > page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. > > > > While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ursula Junque
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Thomi Richards < thomi.richa...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Ursula Junque wrote: > >> Is there a tool we could use to transition upstream bugs to distro bugs, >>> then? I'm all for having a single bug list - at least until there

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 26 November 2013 13:58, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Ursula Junque wrote: >> >> Hi Thomi, >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomi Richards >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque >>> wrote: If upstre

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Thomi Richards
Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Ursula Junque wrote: > Is there a tool we could use to transition upstream bugs to distro bugs, >> then? I'm all for having a single bug list - at least until there's other >> consumers of a project than Ubuntu. > > > Not that I'm aware of but I think this ca

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Oliver Grawert
Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2013, 11:54 -0200 schrieb Ursula Junque: > I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old > page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. > > > While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask people that file bugs to add > a tag refe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ursula Junque
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 26.11.2013 14:54, Ursula Junque wrote: > >> I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old >> page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. >> >> While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask pe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 26.11.2013 14:54, Ursula Junque wrote: I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask people that file bugs to add a tag referring to the image version where

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Ursula Junque wrote: > Hi Thomi, > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomi Richards < > thomi.richa...@canonical.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque wrote: >> >>> >>> If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ursula Junque
I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask people that file bugs to add a tag referring to the image version where the issue was found, e.g. bug found at image

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomi Richards wrote: > Hi, > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque wrote: >> >> >> If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against >> Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. > > I think the distinction betwee

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ursula Junque
Hi Thomi, On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomi Richards < thomi.richa...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque wrote: > >> >> If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against >> Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream rep

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 26 November 2013 09:10, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2013, 20:56 +1300 schrieb Thomi Richards: > > >> I also believe that the correct place for almost all bugs to be filed >> is against the upstream projects itself (at least, for the core >> Canonical/Ubuntu projects - I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2013, 20:56 +1300 schrieb Thomi Richards: > I also believe that the correct place for almost all bugs to be filed > is against the upstream projects itself (at least, for the core > Canonical/Ubuntu projects - I assume we're having this conversation in > the context of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-25 Thread Thomi Richards
Hi, On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque wrote: > > If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against > Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. > I think the distinction between upstream and distro is a useful one, and I'd be sad if we started

[Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-25 Thread Ursula Junque
Hi all, There was a long discussion this afternoon on #ubuntu-ci-eng about the policy to file bugs when dogfooding Ubuntu Touch. We noticed some bugs were being filed only against upstream projects, and this caused at least one regression bug to go unnoticed in this latest image. That happened bec