Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
it also matters which network you are on to which towers you can see, and that gets complicated with roaming agreements and tower sharing stuff, there is at least one project looking to map towers and signal strengths https://www.cellmapper.net/mw/index.php/Index I don't think running the GPS

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-09 Thread Felipe De La Puente
In my opinion, it's important to use an open database with clear policies. Then, a different discussion is how to help this database get filled. I'm not very convinced of the automatic data collection from mobile terminals due to the following reasons: 1. To have a real impact it will require

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
I thought the HERE maps thing did that? It really isn't a good idea for the Ubuntu handsets to contribute to any such effort while location services is still so reluctant to allow the GPS chip to turn on and do it's job. Right now my phone thinks I am about half a mile away from where I am, I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-09 Thread Leonardo "LeartS" Donelli
It seems to me the leaderboard considers only Stumbler users, while I'd wager the vast majority of contributions come from Firefox for Android users. There are more than 100 millions downloads of Firefox for android. Even if only 1 out of 5000 users have opted in and still use the app

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-08 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mattias, Thanks for the mail. I don't know much about the other services, but know a bit about MLS. Here's my thoughts. On 8 June 2016 at 20:52, Mattias wrote: > There are open source > databases with an api like http://opencellid.org and >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-08 Thread Felipe De La Puente
Hi, I totally agree, ubuntu should be using an AGPS based on open databases. However I think it's not the case. In any case, such an implementation needs to be at location-service level, not app level. I haven't had time to check how complex it would be to try to implement that from scratch and

[Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

2016-06-08 Thread Mattias
Hi, Does someone know if there is already software that makes you get a faster location fix using cell tower information? I noticed that a-gps works quite well in the city area but not in the country side. There are already a few open source projects (for android) that do this, but I am