Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Kristijan Žic
I also find documentation and communication channels somewhat difficult and fragmented. I think we actually don't know anything specific about the future features of ubuntu touch. The closest I've got to the list of planned features for the next few OTAs was a google doc shared by some of the Canon

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Mathijs Veen
A while ago, Matthias Apitz brought together a great deal of knowledge based on his bq phone. It is very readable and most of it applies to the other devices. It has been really usefull to me on many occaisions. https://www.gitbook.com/book/gurucubano/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/details I am su

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Wayne Ward
I set up ubuntusocial.net because of this for a central location but never really took off! Small comunity with forums, group chat etc Wayne n Monday, 11 July 2016 19:42:39 CEST, padraic stack wrote: There are a couple of other solutions to the ssh timeout issue posted here: http://askubunt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Miguel Menéndez Carrión
Good afternoon I agree with previous comments related to documentation. It is not easy to consult the documentation when you have only an idea of ​​what you want to find and is distributed. In this scenario a place that brings together the information would be a good idea. It can be a Web or

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Cesar Herrera
+1 11.07.2016, 17:46, "Joseph Liau" :I might be wrong, and I often am but... On 2016-07-09 04:49 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:hi, Am Samstag, den 09.07.2016, 13:17 +0200 schrieb linuxgeht...@habmalnefrage.de:   Think on it when you say it is ready for all. It is not really. It's only  for developers or

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread padraic stack
There are a couple of other solutions to the ssh timeout issue posted here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/770254/how-can-i-keep-ssh-or-another-command-alive-on-the-terminal-app-of-my-ubuntu-p One issue with UT that I do have is the lack of documentation / a central hub for info. Info is scattered

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Stephen M. Webb
On 16-07-11 12:35 PM, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Second, and that's the reason I flashed Android on it a few days ago (but > will try UT again in a few weeks) is that I found it to not currently work > for my geeky and not-so-geeky use cases. Last week, at a project meeting, I > needed to ssh into a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Jens Grivolla
With no intention to bash the work the developers are doing, I agree that there are currently some marketing problems with Ubuntu Touch devices that are sold to end users. I bought a bq M10 fully expecting it to not be as polished as an Android device, but thinking it might be useful as a bit of a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Joseph Liau
I might be wrong, and I often am but... On 2016-07-09 04:49 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Samstag, den 09.07.2016, 13:17 +0200 schrieb > linuxgeht...@habmalnefrage.de: >> >> Think on it when you say it is ready for all. It is not really. It's >> only >> for developers or enthusiasts but

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-11 Thread Lukasz Zemczak
Hello! Thank you for all your feedback, we are aware of all the issues and will try to get to them sooner or later. It's like Oliver said though: Ubuntu Touch is like Ubuntu - it's an open source project that needs help from open source developers. Our own developers have limited resources so we c

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-10 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Sonntag, den 10.07.2016, 07:51 + schrieb Marcin Xc: > I used to write about the same issues a few weeks ago. I'm glad it is > not only my point of view. The worst thing is Canonical doesn't keep > it's marketing promises. This system is still in beta phase for me and > at some points eve

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-10 Thread Marcin Xc
I used to write about the same issues a few weeks ago. I'm glad it is not only my point of view. The worst thing is Canonical doesn't keep it's marketing promises. This system is still in beta phase for me and at some points even alpha. Am Sa., 9. Juli 2016 um 13:49 hat Oliver Grawert Fol

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 09.07.2016, 13:17 +0200 schrieb linuxgeht...@habmalnefrage.de: >  > Think on it when you say it is ready for all. It is not really. It's > only  > for developers or enthusiasts but really not for ALL. Will some of > this  > points change this year? Or until the end of the second

[Ubuntu-phone] Why UT is not ready

2016-07-09 Thread linuxgehtned
Great work until now - but short summary of what are show stoppers for the users. This are all reported bugs. 1. SMS does not count 160 chars. Intransparent and expensive. Or counting with wc in terminal app - really? 2. Gallery in real usage has some 100 or 1000 photos - starting is about s