Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2017-01-01 Thread nick luigi eusebio
: Jo-Erlend Schinstad To: mark Cc: Ubuntu Phone Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets On 1 January 2017 at 14:39, mark wrote: Hi Jo-Erlend, Am I right in thinking that the Unity8 session for the Desktop is basi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2017-01-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 1 January 2017 at 15:40, nick luigi eusebio wrote: > Is it possible to still have click once the phones/tablets switch to snaps? > I think this would be better in the early days because I doubt many > developers in the Ubuntu Click store will immediately port their apps to > snap especially th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2017-01-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 1 January 2017 at 14:39, mark wrote: > Hi Jo-Erlend, > > Am I right in thinking that the Unity8 session for the Desktop is > basically the promised Core and Snap of the upcoming Ubuntu Personal? > Mir, Unity 8 and the snap system is the same in phones and desktop. In 16.10, however, Mir and Un

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2017-01-01 Thread mark
Hi Jo-Erlend, Am I right in thinking that the Unity8 session for the Desktop is basically the promised Core and Snap of the upcoming Ubuntu Personal? And is Canonical's attention focused on the Desktop - presumably Unity8 - at the moment in preparation for 17.04? What's still needed to mesh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2017-01-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
But aren't you missing the point? Ubuntu Touch is about to be replaced and the replacement cannot automatically support previews models. That support has to be manually added to the new system. I think it is reasonable to expect and even demand, that Canonical makes sure that the devices that were

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-31 Thread miguel pires
#x27;d buy today as old phone as a new > Nexus 4 for 400 euro (official sources), would You? > > Cheers > > Marcin > > > -- > *From:* Jo-Erlend Schinstad > *To:* Matthias Apitz ; "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" > > *Sen

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-31 Thread Dominik Wnęk
Jo-Erlend Schinstad To: Marcos Alonso Cc: ubuntu-phone Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets Sure there is lack of information. That's not a problem; that's just software development. You rarely know

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-31 Thread Marcin Xc
ot;ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets Hi Jo-Erlend, Can you point, please, to one or two stores selling Ubuntu phones. Thanks A laptop becomes an Ubuntu laptop once Ubuntu is

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-31 Thread Marcin Xc
t: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets Sure there is lack of information. That's not a problem; that's just software development. You rarely know exactly how long something is going to take, because you rarely know what you have to do or how quickly you can expect

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Krzysztof T
Another thing that, approximately year ago, there was some UT news every week (at websites like http://news.softpedia.com/cat/Linux or omgubuntu.co.uk ), and now - Big silence. 2016-12-29 20:06 GMT+01:00 advocatux : > El 29/12/16 a las 16:05, Fabio Colella escribió: > >> Hello, >> I think you can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread advocatux
El 29/12/16 a las 16:05, Fabio Colella escribió: Hello, I think you can find many answers here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/ 101489925843882654647/posts/1CzgkHJwURm Cheers, Fabio Hi Fabio, thank you for posting that link. That's exactly the kind of discussion I expect in this list, funny en

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Fabio Colella
Hello, I think you can find many answers here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/ 101489925843882654647/posts/1CzgkHJwURm Cheers, Fabio On 29 December 2016 at 14:39, advocatux wrote: > > El 29/12/16 a las 14:00, gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk escribió: > >> Ok, I think the problem here is that we have

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread advocatux
El 29/12/16 a las 14:00, gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk escribió: Ok, I think the problem here is that we have ticked along for at least the last year with regular updates on what is landing. Although I often don't take it in it is nice to see this regular reminder that things are happening. Ev

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread gareth . france
Ok, I think the problem here is that we have ticked along for at least the last year with regular updates on what is landing. Although I often don't take it in it is nice to see this regular reminder that things are happening. Ever since I first got my handset there has been a very clear statem

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 29 December 2016 at 11:29, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Just as background to let you know that I'm not some stupid newbie: I do > run FreeBSD on my latops, even on a Chromebook, all compiled from svn > rep, from the kernel up to KDE. I.e. I have certain idea about > computers after 30 years of UNI

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Walter Garcia-Fontes
* Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de [29/12/16 11:31]: > think. That's why you need some OEM vendor putting this together for you, as > BQ.com > did in the past. And no, you can not buy any new BQ devices any more, > only perhaps a few in eBay or Anazon, or second hand devices. > > It makes no sens

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, December 29, 2016 a las 11:06:40AM +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió: > > Hi Jo-Erlend, > > > > Can you point, please, to one or two stores selling Ubuntu phones. Thanks > > > > > A laptop becomes an Ubuntu laptop once Ubuntu is installed on it. A phone > becomes an Ubuntu phon

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread miguel pires
Hi Jo-Erlend, Is not the same thing. I can install ubuntu in almost any hardware, and it works, but Ubuntu Phone i can't do that!!! Only on that specific phones! Don't get me wrong, I was one of many that put my money in the Edge crowdfundig, and I by the first Ubuntu phone to. I'm expecting, like

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Hi Jo-Erlend, > > Can you point, please, to one or two stores selling Ubuntu phones. Thanks > > A laptop becomes an Ubuntu laptop once Ubuntu is installed on it. A phone becomes an Ubuntu phone once Ubuntu is installed on it. The phones that were sold with Ubuntu pre-installed are still sold. Yes

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, December 29, 2016 a las 06:19:47PM +1100, Stephen escribió: > You can still buy a new Meizu Pro 5 (Flyme), and install Ubuntu. > > I think that is the best option. I was not talking for me in person. Me and my family we are owning three devices BQ E4.5 and a M10, all with Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Stephen
You can still buy a new Meizu Pro 5 (Flyme), and install Ubuntu. I think that is the best option. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Walter Garcia-Fontes
* Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de [29/12/16 07:06]: > Can you point, please, to one or two stores selling Ubuntu phones. Thanks Just at this moment there is one BQ 4.5 second hand and 2 BQ M10 tablets second hand on offer in Amazon Spain: https://www.amazon.es/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?__mk_es_ES=%C3%8

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, December 29, 2016 a las 01:37:47AM +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió: > The phones are still officially supported and in stores. You mention a few > bugs that you think are important. ... Hi Jo-Erlend, Can you point, please, to one or two stores selling Ubuntu phones. Thanks

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
The phones are still officially supported and in stores. You mention a few bugs that you think are important. I'm not saying they're not important, but there are many important bugs that must be fixed. Recording 4K video is nice, but definitely nowhere near my top-ten list of bugs. We know Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Sure there is lack of information. That's not a problem; that's just software development. You rarely know exactly how long something is going to take, because you rarely know what you have to do or how quickly you can expect to know what you have to do. This is particularly true when you're talkin

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Marcos Alonso
Hi Jo-Erlend. The assumption I was referring to: 'If there are no important changes and everything is going according to plan, then why would you expect an official statement?' Everybody knows of convergence purpose but, which are the plan milestones and its dates to know that everything is on pl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Krzysztof T
Hi Jo-Erlend, 2016-12-28 16:47 GMT+01:00 Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@ubuntu.com>: > But you shouldn't need an Ubuntu Edition model. You know it works, so you > can just get the phone and install Ubuntu on it. But this would be a very > bad time to sell Ubuntu phones, considering ther

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
If you can specify what assumption you would like confirmed, I'll try to dig it up. I can't know what you know and what you don't know. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Marcos Alonso
Hi Jo-Erlend. Does anybody from Ubuntu confirmed your assumption? I have never read it (tough I have not read everything) and this is why we expect some information from Ubuntu. We have "sacrified" some of our phone functionalities to happily support UT. We just want some message! Regards. El

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
But you shouldn't need an Ubuntu Edition model. You know it works, so you can just get the phone and install Ubuntu on it. But this would be a very bad time to sell Ubuntu phones, considering there are large and difficult changes coming. This is not the time to attract newbies to Ubuntu on phones a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, December 28, 2016 a las 08:36:57PM +0800, 葉磊 escribió: > Although I'm as eager as you are about ubuntu phone, BQ's website still > sells ubuntu devices. > https://www.bq.com/en/aquaris-m10-ubuntu-edition Sorry, I was not precise enough. I was talking about phones, like the E4.5.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread advocatux
El 28/12/16 a las 13:36, 葉磊 escribió: Although I'm as eager as you are about ubuntu phone, BQ's website still sells ubuntu devices. https://www.bq.com/en/aquaris-m10-ubuntu-edition No, it doesn't. As you can see in https://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-aquaris-m10 both Aquaris M10 FHD, and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread 葉磊
Although I'm as eager as you are about ubuntu phone, BQ's website still sells ubuntu devices. https://www.bq.com/en/aquaris-m10-ubuntu-edition 2016-12-28 19:40 GMT+08:00 Matthias Apitz : > El día Wednesday, December 28, 2016 a las 12:23:29PM +0100, Krzysztof T > escribió: > > > Nice! :) > > Sad S

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, December 28, 2016 a las 12:23:29PM +0100, Krzysztof T escribió: > Nice! :) > Sad Sad is that the Ubuntu Community takes a huge part in the development > of the Ubuntu OS, and in return Canonical gives us terribly small piece of > information and no official statements regarding

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-28 Thread Krzysztof T
Nice! :) Sad Sad is that the Ubuntu Community takes a huge part in the development of the Ubuntu OS, and in return Canonical gives us terribly small piece of information and no official statements regarding UT. Best regards, Krzysztof T. 2016-12-28 0:09 GMT+01:00 advocatux : > When you ask about