Re: Re-thinking Manual Testing

2013-01-31 Thread Javier P.L.
Cool Nicholas, a total +1 to this, I think it'll help me to get more involved in manual testcase reviewing. One think I'd like to see will be testcases in differente languages, a lot more of people could help if they could be able to follow the steps. Greetings On 30/01/13 at 06:10pm, Nicholas S

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi Sanjeev, > > you are indeed, old fashioned. > Phil, I do not need a million Ubuntu users telling me that, I can get _that_ comment at home, for free :-) And multiple times a day. > The builds for testing are done on a cron (automati

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Sanjeev, you are indeed, old fashioned. The builds for testing are done on a cron (automatic) job. Extra ones can be triggered in. By insisting on all of the the updates to keep you up to date, you cannot help in any testing as no one and no bug report would know what you are running on any sy

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Brian, Right, so to be clear this is by design and this are working properly. which is causing people to ask. Maybe an explanation of this is needed instead of "oh, this is working"? The people who actually take the time out to test do deserve a better answer. Regards, Phill. On 31 Janu

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:15 AM, John Kim wrote: > Sanjeev Gutpa, > > So do you only run those two commands at different times throughout the > day? Are there any other commands to be aware of? > I sit at my laptop for most of the day, and when there is nothing happening, I do: # apt-get update

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Brian Murray
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 10:48:23AM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Brian Murray wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:54:40AM +1100, Jackson Doak wrote: > > > it seems apport always reports "UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present > > > (probably fresh install)", co

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Brian Murray wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:54:40AM +1100, Jackson Doak wrote: > > it seems apport always reports "UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present > > (probably fresh install)", could someone confirm otherwise. i had had my > > install for two months an

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Brian Murray
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:54:40AM +1100, Jackson Doak wrote: > it seems apport always reports "UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present > (probably fresh install)", could someone confirm otherwise. i had had my > install for two months and got that result. It means you don't have a /var/log/dist-upg

Re: Re-thinking Manual Testing

2013-01-31 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, Puts hand up... when I initiated the classroom sessions requiring people to "Have an ISO" and "Have KVM / VBox / TestDrive" installed, the classroom team balked. They stated that we were taking too much for granted on what knowledge a new comer would have. I have gone to length to re-edit that

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Phill Whiteside
Any particular release / arch? Please throw me some crumbs so I can set up a similar system? Jackson, you know better What version of ubuntu, which flavor, which chip-set? :) regards, Phill. On 31 January 2013 20:01, Jackson Doak wrote: > run apport for any package, then check the bottom

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Jackson Doak
run apport for any package, then check the bottom of it's output. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi Jackson, > > under what situations? > > As with any bug report, you do need to say how to duplicate it. > > Regards, > > Phill. > > On 31 January 2013 19:54, Jackson Do

Re: possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Jackson, under what situations? As with any bug report, you do need to say how to duplicate it. Regards, Phill. On 31 January 2013 19:54, Jackson Doak wrote: > it seems apport always reports "UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present > (probably fresh install)", could someone confirm otherwis

possible apport bug

2013-01-31 Thread Jackson Doak
it seems apport always reports "UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)", could someone confirm otherwise. i had had my install for two months and got that result. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://list

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Fabio, I think you win for the least keystrokes needed! :-) On 01/31/2013 03:02 PM, Fabio Marconi wrote: On 31/01/2013 18:57, John Kim wrote: Hello ubuntu-qa, I'm John Kim. Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu 13.04 Raring daily build from the cdimage.ubuntu.com site on my laptop, and I'm glad to sa

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Fabio Marconi
On 31/01/2013 18:57, John Kim wrote: > Hello ubuntu-qa, > > I'm John Kim. Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu 13.04 Raring daily build > from the cdimage.ubuntu.com site on my laptop, and I'm glad to say it > works really great. (It wasn't the same for my desktop, however :[ ) > To ensure that my comput

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
John, I update on occasion - no obsession about updating everyday or anything like that. When I do update, the important thing is to make sure the upgrade will go cleanly. Don't update if it's going to remove important packages, or do something undesirable. This is quite a rare occurrence (I ha

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread John Kim
Sanjeev Gutpa,  So do you only run those two commands at different times throughout the day? Are there any other commands to be aware of? How can I ensure that by running those two commands, I get the daily build from the uk.archive.ubuntu.com archive? Because by default, mine is set to us.arc

Re: Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:57 AM, John Kim wrote: > > I was thinking just doing: > > $ sudo apt-get update > > $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > > at around noon in my timezone daily is the only sequence. Can I be > missing something? > I have been doing this since 11.10, staying with daily updates

Updating daily builds on a daily basis.

2013-01-31 Thread John Kim
Hello ubuntu-qa, I'm John Kim. Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu 13.04 Raring daily build from the cdimage.ubuntu.com site on my laptop, and I'm glad to say it works really great.  (It wasn't the same for my desktop, however :[ ) To ensure that my computer is completely up-to-date with the daily bu

Re: New joiner introduction

2013-01-31 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Oleksander, welcome aboard! Since you spoke about automated testing, here's some things that might be of interest to you right now: Tomorrow, we're hosting a hackfest where you can learn about autopilot (an automated testing framework we use) and help contribute testcases. Details are here: h

Re: New joiner introduction

2013-01-31 Thread John Kim
Glad to have you on board! Hope you will enjoy the community. Here is a great place for you to start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam By any chance, if you can, come stop by to Ubuntu Developer Week, in which Ubuntu developers give presentations on various aspects of - you guessed it - Ubuntu deve

New joiner introduction

2013-01-31 Thread Олександр Гаврилюк
Hello Team, Glad to join the community! My name is Oleksandr and I come from Ukraine I have worked as a technical writer and manual test engineer for some time. For a little more that a year, I have been involved into automated testing and would love to move one with it. Within the Ubuntu project