Dear Archive Team, On the Server Team, we've started to use git to manage our team subscriptions to packages in Launchpad. The main reasons are:
1) To avoid inadvertent changes - we lost a bunch of subscriptions by accident at one point. 2) To keep an audit trail of changes made. This is particularly important for the server team as we have an effective bug triage process now that is able to stay on top of all new bug traffic for all our subscribed packages. Accidentally losing a subscription causes bug traffic to miss our bug triage process, which includes tracking new activity on previously triaged bugs. We're achieving this with the script at this repository, which also contains our canonical list of subscriptions: https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+git/team-subscriptions The script just ensures that Launchpad's view matches our "officially subscribed" list that we keep there in git. Changes made in Launchpad that aren't committed in git get reverted automatically. The requirement from us is simply that the git repository be updated with any changes to our subscriptions with a suitable commit message to provide an explanation. Otherwise changes intentionally get reverted. When I arranged this, it didn't occur to me that anybody other than us touches our package subscriptions on Launchpad. But apparently you do, when making changes for technicalities like versioned source package names (see below for the thread with an example). I didn't even realise that you had an ACL that permitted you to do so directly, thinking that the request always went via our team in the past. However if your expectation is that you can JFDI in Launchpad itself, then this clashes with our desire for the audit trail. On the other hand, I don't expect to be forcing this onto other teams, and so having a different workflow for you to follow depending on which team it is will also clearly be a pain. Any suggestions on how to proceed? Note that the script is deliberately generic and so other teams could adopt it too if they wish. And of course we can move the repository and/or provide ACLs to relevant other teams as needed. Robie On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 09:04:54AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 07:31:16AM +0000, Robie Basak wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 10:19:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 08:00:23AM +0000, robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: > > > > The following subscriptions are superfluous: > > > > php8.1 > > > > Superfluous subscriptions removed > > > > Please revert this, I subscribed the server team to php8.1 so it could be > > > promoted and unblock php-defaults in -proposed. > > > Done. > > > Sorry this broke your workflow. We need any changes to our subscriptions > > to be committed to git now[1]. I'm not sure how to make this less > > painful for you next time, save for asking us instead of making the > > change directly. > > > Any suggestions? > > > https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-server/+git/team-subscriptions > > As I happen to be subscribed to ubuntu-server and see these emails, it's easy > enough for me to follow up to confirm. I don't think all members of the > Ubuntu Archive team are subscribed to this list, and I'm sure they're not > aware there's been a Server Team-specific change to the promotion workflow. > I'd suggest that you promulgate this to the Archive Team > (ubuntu-release@lists) so that there's awareness and we can discuss how best > to integrate this into the workflow. > > In the meantime I'd just ask that when your scripts detect a mismatch, the > Server Team be proactive about following up to figure out why the mismatch > was there. > > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ > slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-ser...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
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