Re: Ubuntu 14.04.2 release date (obviously) delayed

2015-02-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, February 06, 2015 01:53:39 Adam Conrad wrote: > Thursday has come and, in almost all time zones gone, and I apologize > for us not communicating this well except on IRC. It was fairly > obvious to most, I think, that the HWE bits for 14.04.2 landed a bit > late to realistically expect a

Re: Alpha 1 and Milestones Announcements

2014-12-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, December 19, 2014 04:39:39 PM Ali/amjjawad wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just noticed that the announcement of Alpha 1 was sent to the - maybe - > wrong mailing list or perhaps, we forgot to send it here as well: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2014-December/0

Policy For Sunsetting GPG Keys < 2048 Bits

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
As many of you know, Debian is in the process of terminating use of 1024 bit keys due to near term security concerns [1]. In Ubuntu, we should probably do this too, but since any developer can replace an existing key via the Launchpad U/I and there's no requirement to get keys signed through we

Re: 15.04 release planning session?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 06:41:46 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:50:30AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Someone please remember to harass Riddell about attending as I'll be > > travelling for $WORK and not available. > > I'm whipping up a

Re: 15.04 release planning session?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 03:38:56 AM Adam Conrad wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:15:21AM +, Iain Lane wrote: > > I was just browsing the "UOS" schedule looking for this session to > > subscribe to, but it's not there. > > > > Should we have it? There's no release schedule yet AFAICS.

Re: [SRU] Set the default IO scheduler to CFQ in Kubuntu Trusty

2014-10-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:54:54 PM Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 11 October 2014 04:30, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Friday, October 10, 2014 23:51:18 Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > >> On 10 October 2014 11:26, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2

Re: [SRU] Set the default IO scheduler to CFQ in Kubuntu Trusty

2014-10-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 10, 2014 23:51:18 Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 10 October 2014 11:26, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:02:04AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Rohan Garg wrote: > >> > > So while I still don't agree that this i

Re: Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 08, 2014 17:38:01 Martin Pitt wrote: > Robie Basak [2014-10-08 11:19 +0100]: > > We don't have automatic dep8 test runs in trusty-proposed yet (which is > > bug 1321691), but this is something that is desirable. When we do have > > it, we're going to have a ton more QA going o

Re: Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:32:27 Robie Basak wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 07:30:49PM -0600, Adam Conrad wrote: > > If upstream doesn't intend to reuse version numbers... > > Right. I've discussed this with upstream and they have committed to not > re-using version numbers that they have

Re: Feature Freeze in effect for 14.10

2014-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:46:19 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:35:13 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Reinhard Tartler > > > > wrote: >

Re: Feature Freeze in effect for 14.10

2014-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:35:13 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Adam Conrad wrote: > >> As of nowish, Feature Freeze is in effect for utopic (14.10), leading > >> up to the release in October. > >> > >

Re: Touch FFe

2014-08-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 02:07:54 Iain Lane wrote: > I didn't see a big touch feature freeze exception this time. > > Is there one or is someone planning to request one? Considering Phone is close to RTM, wouldn't not having that make sense? Scott K -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-re

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 11, 2014 16:07:54 Rohan Garg wrote: > >> 6) We don't intend to provide upgrade mechanisms for this CD from 14.10 > >> to > >> 15.04 > > > > Does that mean you are deliberately *disabling* the stock upgrade support? > > Well, we're not explicitly disabling upgrades, a user can stil

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 03, 2014 08:26:33 Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:49:17 Steve Langasek wrote: > > ... > > > >> Because you're building it from a ppa, so it's not a remix. >

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:27:03 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:04:00AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > I was simply answering the point about remixes and PPAs. > > Calling it technical preview would be my preferred option. > > Not being able to make a release is a bigger pro

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:49:17 Steve Langasek wrote: ... > Because you're building it from a ppa, so it's not a remix. ... Canonical has published "remixes" that included PPA packages, so there's nothing novel about this. I can't seem to find the official definition of a Remix on Ubuntu.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 04:21:09 Colin Watson wrote: > * possibly adjusting anything that uses pbuilder or similar to use a >different archive mirror URL I believe this is already pretty easy to do with pbuilder-dist (in ubuntu-dev- tools) and either command line options or environment va

Re: Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 05, 2014 21:27:36 Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:00:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Personally, I'm fine with it being in #ubuntu-release. I think we're > > already much too fragmented and people are too comfortable in their own

Re: Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 04, 2014 22:07:24 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:00:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Will phone RTM dates be better aligned with the Ubuntu development > > schedule in the future? > > I believe this is meant to be a one-off, as the

Re: Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 05, 2014 01:56:26 Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:54:03PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > How will uploads to this new derived distribution get back into > > Ubuntu? > > I think I said something about this in my original mail, but I want

Re: Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 04, 2014 21:20:50 Colin Watson wrote: > The Ubuntu phone images are due to hit the release-to-manufacturing > (RTM) point later this cycle. With the pace of the phone work, it > doesn't look practical to deal with this by SRUing all the required > changes into trusty - we're tal

Re: Draft Utopic Release Schedule

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 09:47:53 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 09:02:16AM -0600, Adam Conrad wrote: > > I'll make that change shortly. > > A happy accident here is that it also puts all the milestones at the > end of their respective month. Does this mean that flavours might >

Re: [RFC] 12.04.5

2014-02-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, February 07, 2014 20:28:55 Stéphane Graber wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:24:23PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:00:12AM -0800, Leann Ogasawara wrote: > > > With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of > > > having a > > > 12.04.5 p

Re: Freeze length for alpha milestones

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Iain Lane wrote: >On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 05:17:56PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> Steve Langasek wrote: >> > […] >> >This means, to be clear, that the freeze in proposed-migration would >> >only >> >take place on Tuesday or Wednesday of the alpha

Re: Freeze length for alpha milestones

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Steve Langasek wrote: >Hi all, > >One of the points of discussion that came out of the release team >session at >vUDS was whether the current freeze length for alpha milestones is >still >appropriate. I believe that it is not; with the use of -proposed >protecting >the release pocket from both ar

Re: Ubuntu Touch release mechanics

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 20, 2013 00:57:02 Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Scott, > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:34:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thursday, September 19, 2013 18:30:17 Colin Watson wrote: > > > I've been working with the Ubuntu Touch folks to try

Re: Ubuntu Touch release mechanics

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 18:30:17 Colin Watson wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been working with the Ubuntu Touch folks to try to improve how > they're landing changes. At the moment, to try to keep control of > things in the run-up to 13.10, they're tracking all their landings in a > spreadsh

Re: Ubuntu Touch release mechanics

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 16:39:27 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:30:17PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-release-team is 404 for me. What's > > the URL for the team? > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-relea

Re: Ubuntu Touch release mechanics

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
Colin Watson wrote: >Hi folks, > >I've been working with the Ubuntu Touch folks to try to improve how >they're landing changes. At the moment, to try to keep control of >things in the run-up to 13.10, they're tracking all their landings in a >spreadsheet and asking people not to upload things out

Re: [Merge] lp:~stgraber/indicator-power/revert-20130913 into lp:indicator-power

2013-09-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, September 14, 2013 23:17:48 Ted Gould wrote: > On Sat, 2013-09-14 at 13:38 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 01:43:00PM -0600, Adam Conrad wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:58:49AM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > > > I understand your concern about bringing in

Re: proposed-migration blocks for milestones

2013-09-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 05, 2013 20:31:19 Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Scott, > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 06:25:28PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > Finally, there's one other point that I think we should discuss > > > regarding > > > the opt-in freezes.

Re: proposed-migration blocks for milestones

2013-09-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 05, 2013 13:50:45 Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi all, > > So you can blame me for instigating this thread, since I was complaining at > Laney on IRC about package uploads getting caught up in the long freeze for > beta-1. > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:41:21PM +0100, Iain Lane

Re: proposed-migration blocks for milestones

2013-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
Iain Lane wrote: >Greetings, > >This cycle we've been blocking packages from migrating between >saucy-proposed and saucy when milestone freezes have been going on. The >first time I think Scott K manually generated a list of packages >somehow, but after that I wrote a script that blocks everything

Re: Beta 1

2013-09-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
Phil (phillw), I was offline most of today due to the holiday in the US, so I had no idea what your mail was about when it appeared on the -release list. I just went back and reviewed the #ubuntu-release backlog for today to try and figure it out. It seems like every milestone you want assuran

Re: Request for 16hr Beta/FFe for gnumeric, goffice, xfce4-panel, libxfce4ui, and xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-08-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 23:40:38 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:31:22PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: > > gnumeric to 1.12.6 and goffice to 0.10.6 > > numerous bug fixes and very few features (only in gnumeric) > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnumeric/1.12/gnumeric-1

Re: dgit sync

2013-08-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 22:15:09 Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 24 August 2013 21:24, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > > I noticed dgit got synced into saucy and is now in NEW queue. > > > > dgit is currently under heavily accelerated rapid development, thus I > > do not think it's a good idea to include

Re: Netboot is broken on the iso tracker

2013-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Phil, It's a pretty simple concept. You mis-remembered Debian instead of Debian Installer. It's not a major mistake, but your extended chain of incorrect inferences from that small mistake are all yours. Don't blame the release team. Your defensive reaction makes it even worse. Instead of

Re: request for freeze exception for Ubuntu Touch packages

2013-08-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, August 06, 2013 16:02:52 Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi folks, > > Since it's a bit early yet for feature freeze exceptions, I thought it might > be a good idea to explicitly draw the list's attention to an FFe I've just > filed: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1208989 > > T

Re: Participation in Saucy Alpha 2

2013-07-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 22, 2013 07:45:05 AM Adam Conrad wrote: > ScottK: If you'd like to push the massive britney block of doom, > please do. Done. I reused the Alpha 1 block. Scott K -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubu

Re: Release Task Signup time for Saucy Milestones

2013-06-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
I still haven't done this. I'd said earlier I needed to wait and see how things were going with my paid work before volunteering. I've seen now and I am increasingly having to be offline for most of several days a week with zero predictability about when/which days. I don't think I'll be able

Re: force-autopkgtest semantics

2013-06-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 05:58:11 PM Adam Conrad wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 07:48:10PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Would it be possible to support force-autopkgtest on either the package > > under test or the triggering package. Then, for today's case, we

force-autopkgtest semantics

2013-06-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Currently if you need to force a package past an autopkgtest you need to do the force-autopkgtest on the package which triggered the test, not the one that's attempting to migrate. As an example, today we were trying to get kde- baseapps to migrate quickly so that we could get our Alpha 1 images

Re: S Release Schedule

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:17:24 PM Pete Graner wrote: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > As far as I can tell, no one objected to this change. An objections if I > > go ahead and update the schedule? > > Scott, > > Go for it.

Re: S Release Schedule

2013-04-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
As far as I can tell, no one objected to this change. An objections if I go ahead and update the schedule? Scott K On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 09:38:15 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > It looks to me like, for Kubuntu, having Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 a week later > would be better. The current

Re: Heads Up: Smart Scopes Not Landing

2013-03-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jono Bacon wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I just wanted to give you what I think is a pretty uncontroversial >heads up >as I promised to do a better job preparing our leaders for any >announcements. > >As some of you will know, the dash team has been working to get the new >smart scopes functionality in

Re: S Release Schedule

2013-03-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
It looks to me like, for Kubuntu, having Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 a week later would be better. The current dates are right on top of KDE 4.11 beta 1 and release candidate 1. If we go a week later, we can have those ready for the milestones. Scott K On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 09:28:35 AM Pete G

Re: Archive freeze for 13.04

2013-03-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, March 25, 2013 01:34:22 PM Stéphane Graber wrote: > Hello, > > We're now approaching the final beta for the 13.04 release and so now is > around the time where we should think about freezing the archive. > > In the past, we've usually started freezing with the second beta and > then ke

Re: Opt-in beta 1 next week

2013-03-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 08, 2013 04:41:17 PM Stéphane Graber wrote: > Hello, > > Next week is Beta-1 for flavours interested in participating. > > The plan is to start building images at 21:00 UTC on Monday and release > during my day on Thursday (US/Canada eastern time). > > If you are a flavour lead

Re: To Feature Freeze, or not to Feature Freeze:

2013-03-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:43:52 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:23:28PM +, Iain Lane wrote: > > that is my question: > As far as I'm concerned we should follow the release plan. We all > agreed to it at UDS last year and we've all been working towards it > and I don

Re: 12.04.2 Point Release Delay

2013-01-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, January 11, 2013 11:18:48 AM Pete Graner wrote: > Ubuntu 12.04.2 is currently scheduled to be released on Jan 31st [0]. > > This is the first time we have shipped a backported Hardware > Enablement stack in a LTS release, comprised of a new kernel and > graphics subsystem. At this time

Re: Alpha 2 Schedule Adjustment

2013-01-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 02:20:34 PM Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Scott and Release Team > > On 08/01/13 02:59 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Upstream KDE have, for the first time in several years, moved their > > release > > schedule. KDE SC 4.10.0 will now relea

Alpha 2 Schedule Adjustment

2013-01-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
Upstream KDE have, for the first time in several years, moved their release schedule. KDE SC 4.10.0 will now release on February 6th, the day before Alpha 2 is currently planned. We (the Kubuntu team) would like to move Alpha 2 a week later to February 14 so we can both ship KDE SC 4.10.0 on t

Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras

2012-12-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, December 29, 2012 02:55:51 PM Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Bhavani Shankar R wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber > >> > >>wrote: > >>> On 12/28/

Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras

2012-12-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
Bhavani Shankar R wrote: >On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Stéphane Graber >wrote: >> On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> The existence of >>> >http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc >>> w

Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras

2012-12-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:18:57 AM Allison Randal wrote: > CC'ing Niels for coordination with Debian. > > On 12/28/2012 10:02 AM, Stéphane Graber wrote: > >> The package has now been removed from the archive and should disappear > >> from the mirror pretty soon. > >> > >> The problem is wit

Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras

2012-12-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:18:57 AM Allison Randal wrote: > CC'ing Niels for coordination with Debian. > > On 12/28/2012 10:02 AM, Stéphane Graber wrote: > >> The package has now been removed from the archive and should disappear > >> from the mirror pretty soon. > >> > >> The problem is wit

Re: Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras

2012-12-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, December 28, 2012 06:44:37 PM Stéphane Graber wrote: > On 12/28/2012 06:37 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > The existence of > > http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12 > > .10.1.dsc was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seem

Uploading Forks of Ubuntu Packages to Extras

2012-12-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
The existence of http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1.dsc was recently mentioned #ubuntu-devel. This seems to be in direct contradiction of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines - in particular "Apps should not be forks or updates

Re: Unreviewed SRUs

2012-12-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, December 05, 2012 01:33:38 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday, December 04, 2012 01:19:43 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I was looking for SRUs that had been verified and were aged to the point > > they could be released to updates. I noticed python-django had all

Re: Unreviewed SRUs

2012-12-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 04, 2012 01:19:43 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > I was looking for SRUs that had been verified and were aged to the point > they could be released to updates. I noticed python-django had all three > bugs verified and was of sufficient age, so I copied it. > > Un

Unreviewed SRUs

2012-12-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
I was looking for SRUs that had been verified and were aged to the point they could be released to updates. I noticed python-django had all three bugs verified and was of sufficient age, so I copied it. Unfortunately, it was only after I copied it that I noticed that all three of these bugs were

Re: First opt-in alpha release for Raring

2012-12-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 29, 2012 04:34:08 PM Stéphane Graber wrote: > Hello everyone, > > According to the ReleaseSchedule, next week is alpha-1 for those > flavours that want to participate in it. > > I'll be the point of contact for this release, so if you have any > question, feel free to contac

Re: First opt-in alpha release for Raring

2012-11-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, November 30, 2012 11:46:53 AM Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi! > > On 12-11-30 11:10 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > Le 11/29/2012 10:34 PM, Stéphane Graber a écrit : > >> So if you are a product lead please reply to this e-mail by Monday 21:00 > >> UTC with whether you'll be participating o

Re: Release team meeting?

2012-11-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 09:48:45 PM Adam Conrad wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 04:29:09PM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > It seems like it would be a good time to resume weekly summary > > emails and meeting ... is that planned? What do others think? > > I think there's absolutely valu

Re: Fwd: Application of UIFEs

2012-10-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54:01 AM John Lea wrote: > Forwarding to ubuntu-release,ubuntu-doc,and ubuntu-translators at Iain > Lane's suggestion. > > > Original Message > Subject: Application of UIFEs > Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:28:19 +0100 > From: John

Re: [PS] Release meeting 2012-09-28

2012-09-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 28, 2012 03:30:38 PM Alan Pope wrote: > On 28/09/12 15:25, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > Le 28/09/2012 13:58, Alan Pope a écrit : > >> - New compiz version tarball released - 0.9.8.4 > > > > When do you expect it to be ready for quantal ? > > Early next week. > > > Btw what is

Re: [Kubuntu] Release Meeting 2012-09-14

2012-09-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jonathan Riddell wrote: >=== What was done engineering wise? === > > * KDE SC 4.9.1 update > * print-manager review > * ubiquity LVM and LUKS paritioning for KDE frontend > * post beta review meeting > * attica update > * taglib update > >=== What's about to land that might impact the other tea

Re: New archive administrators?

2012-09-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 07, 2012 05:04:17 PM Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Colin (2012.09.07_15:54:19_+0200) > > > Now that we have queue admin permissions for ubuntu-release and the > > > > like, the remaining tasks of ubuntu-archive are essentially: > > * NEW processing > > Does anything technicall

Re: Release Process concerns (QA) and suggestions

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:53:49 AM Stéphane Graber wrote: > > - Let's document what constitutes a respin and what doesn't, so that > > whenever we see a bug we all know if that is going to trigger a respin > > or not, let's create guidelines for it. > > I suppose we can do that, ultimately i

Re: Standing FFe for stuff in the sponsorship queue at feature freeze

2012-08-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Micah Gersten wrote: >I would like to request a standing FFe for all items in the sponsorship >queue before feature freeze. I don't feel that people's work should be >thrown away due to a lack of available sponsors before Feature Freeze >as >we're all trying to get our own stuff in during that

Re: Communicating effectively with the QA Community

2012-08-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Nicholas Skaggs wrote: >As asked in today's release meeting, I'm starting a thread to continue >the discussion of how the development and release teams communicate and >work with the QA community. This was prompted by the recent changes >landing into quantal with little warning to most of the

Re: Per-pocket upload permissions

2012-08-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
Colin Watson wrote: >On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:09:30AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:37:46 PM Iain Lane wrote: >> > On this point, I can't be entirely sure (it was some time ago), but >I >> > suppose I was thinking that

Re: Changes to the SRU processes?

2012-08-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 01, 2012 08:55:31 AM Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:22:36PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > Le 31/07/2012 21:36, Brian Murray a écrit : > > >Oh and if one of the SRU bugs is already tagged > > >verification-failed it'll just add a comment to that bug. Bar

Rejection of libart-lgpl SRU

2012-07-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
SRU's should be miminal changes to fix the bug in question. Of these items: +libart-lgpl (2.3.21-1ubuntu1) precise-proposed; urgency=low + + * Use dpkg source format 3.0 (quilt). + * Drop debian/patches/70_relibtoolize.patch and use dh-autoreconf instead to +update the build system. + * B

Re: Python3 Breakage Fixed

2012-07-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 13, 2012 10:17:53 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 13, 2012, at 09:55 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >Yesterday was not a good one for the Python 3 stack. I sync'ed in some > >improvements from Debian earlier in the week and it fairly quickly became > >cle

Re: Doing away with the unseeded universe final freeze

2012-07-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 03:45:22 PM Iulian Udrea wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 15:20 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > Hi, > > Hiya. > > > In one of the UDS sessions we discussed the various freezes and it was > > decided that the unseeded universe final freeze we had for Precise isn't > > very usef

Re: Changes to the SRU processes?

2012-07-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 01:03:43 PM Brian Murray wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:59:28PM -0400, Stéphane Graber wrote: > > On 07/17/2012 03:53 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > We got some recent SRU issues where regressions were not detected before > > > having the

Python3 Breakage Fixed

2012-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
Yesterday was not a good one for the Python 3 stack. I sync'ed in some improvements from Debian earlier in the week and it fairly quickly became clear that we're using Python 3 a lot in Quantal. The last real bug from this, lp:1024016 was fixed about 10 hours ago and it looks like new dupes/

Re: Minutes from the 12.04.1 team meeting (Thursday 28th of June)

2012-07-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 01:44:57 PM Stéphane Graber wrote: ... > - Kubuntu: KDE for 12.04.1 is currently in -proposed and going through > testing ... This was copied to -updates on Monday, so from a KDE perspective we're good. I just found out today about a significant issue in Qt that I'd l

Re: Is there any progress on the stl abi issues? (was: Re: [Desktop] Release Meeting 2012-06-29)

2012-06-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, June 29, 2012 08:21:39 PM Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 28/06/2012 21:55, Sebastien Bacher a écrit : > > * the gcc 4.7,libsigc,stl issues are still not fixed yet (unity is > > > > build with gcc-4.6 still) > > I've been mentioning that for a few weeks but I've seen no recent > update,

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 03:27:01 PM Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > If I may speak for myself here, my goal is to encourage ubuntu as a > project to be a leader in open source in the realm of quality. It's what > I care about and I hope to be a part of making happen. My work at > Canonical aligns wi

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:25:09 AM Jono Bacon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> I don't think it is unreasonable for Canonical to focus its resources > >> on Ubuntu as opposed to the flavors. > > > > I'm crysta

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:09:54 AM Michael Casadevall wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/21/2012 09:43 AM, Jono Bacon wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Michael Casadevall > > > > wrote: > > If we had more resources we would love to provide help f

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:14:05 PM Jono Bacon wrote: > Well to be clear, Nick is one member of the Ubuntu community who is > focused on testing. Other people are welcome to coordinate testing > campaigns and get others interested and excited about testing, but > Nick's focus is explicitly on t

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 06:52:58 PM Rick Spencer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Jono Bacon > > > The Kubuntu team are welcome to determine whatever milestones they > > want - no one is suggesting anything needs to change for the flavors > > in their testing cadence. I am purely stat

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:14:05 PM Jono Bacon wrote: > My goal in this cycle is to ensure we have a regular testing cadence > for Ubuntu and not based on milestones; if the Kubuntu team want to > have your own internal milestones for targeting work and testing, I > see no reason why you can't

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 09:13:17 PM Jono Bacon wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> For our current Ubuntu ISOs. Flavors currently are coordinating their > >> own testing efforts. They could either latch into the two week > >

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 02:41:00 PM Jono Bacon wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>I talked with Nick Skaggs this week and we are happy to commit to > >>manual testing every two weeks, starting a week on Thursday. > >>Originally

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jono Bacon wrote: >On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Rick Spencer > wrote: >> Question 3: shall we increase the rate of manual testing? >> This question also arose in the thread. I think there is widespread >> consensus that we should do this, and it is not actually related to >> the other ques

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 04:57:19 AM Adam Conrad wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:06:14AM -0700, Michael Casadevall wrote: > > Milestones exist to give the Ubuntu developer community to step back, > > and check to make sure nothing important has broken, and to gauge our > > progress through a

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without "freezing"

2012-06-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:06:14 AM Michael Casadevall wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Rick Spencer > > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Kate Stewart > > > > wrote: > >> For Alpha1, we did 2 respin sets after the firs

Re: SRUs and the development release

2012-06-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
Iain Lane Greetings, > >I noticed a few SRUs have been approved lately which have failed to >build in Quantal due to toolchain differences. Examples: > >https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client-gnome/3.0.1-0ubuntu1.1 > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/5.12-0ubuntu2 >

[Kubuntu] Release Meeting 2012-06-02

2012-05-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
=== What was done engineering wise? === Made good progress in packaging KDE SC 4.9 Beta 1 before upstream (due a marvel of focus on process over substance) decided to delay the release. Updated qt4-x11 to better support multiarch (package split) and to the 4.8.2 release. Finished QA for KDE SC

[Kubuntu] Release Meeting 2012-05-25

2012-05-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
=== What was done engineering wise? === * Landed KDE SC 4.8.3 in quantal and precise-proposed. * Started work on packaging KDE SC 4.9 Beta 1, 4.8.80, and in parallel merging packaging updates from Debian. === What's about to land that might impact the other teams and release as a whole? === *

Re: Merging SRU and release team, leaving

2012-05-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
I'm willing to help out with SRU team work. I certainly don't have enough time to offset your departure, but I should be able to do some of it. Scott K -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ub

Re: Merging SRU and release team, leaving

2012-05-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:35:22 PM Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:24:02AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > > as discussed at UDS [1] we were planning to merge ~ubuntu-release and > > ~ubuntu-sru, as the required skills, tools, and processes overlap to a > > large degree. > > Sorry,

Re: Timing of EOL notices

2012-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 18, 2012 10:58:39 AM Jamie Strandboge wrote: > Hi Kate, > > I took an action item at UDS to discuss with the release team the timing > of the EOL notices. Because we are currently backporting the kernel (and > eventually X stack) to earlier releases, the timing of the EOL notice > h

Re: Rejecting almanah 0.9

2012-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 04:15:06 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > According to the upstream documentation, this appears to be a feature > release and we are well past feature freeze. Please use the FFe process if > you want to get this into Precise. JFTR, the uploader replied to me dire

Rejecting almanah 0.9

2012-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
According to the upstream documentation, this appears to be a feature release and we are well past feature freeze. Please use the FFe process if you want to get this into Precise. Scott K -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https:

[Kubuntu] Release meeting 2012-04-13

2012-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
=== What was done engineering wise? === * Enabled Kwin Active for Kubuntu Active (GLES support) * Fixed .pot export issues and rebuilt packages with broken templates in LP * Finished testing of new plymouth theme and QML based Ksplash theme to match === What's about to land that might impact th

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