On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 06:27 +0900, Onno Benschop wrote:
> I'm not saying that their solution is crap, I'm saying that they're
> telling me one thing and offering me another. They're telling me the
> machine is a real server, "it's running Open Solaris was the mantra",
> but when I actually want to
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 13:57 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
> > There's also a cli, I've been told.
>
> I've dealt with equipment before with a web UI which did stuff, then a
> CLI which was a few 'reset password' level of commands.
> Not saying the Sun box is like that, just that "it has a cli" doesnt
>
Fair enough I can see your points. I think what makes the Sun solution open
is that it's running x86 hardware. You're free to install what ever
OS/Software you want on the hardware. Just don't expect anything more than
hardware support from Sun if you choose to do that. This is more than you
ca
On 19/11/08 08:13, David Miller wrote:
> I still think you're missing the point. The problem was not what Sun said
> or is trying to sell you but with your pre-conception of what they were
> selling you. While it is technically a "server" it is really a storage
> appliance that just happens to be
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 19:59 +0100, Mark Schouten wrote:
> Hi Onno, and all. See my reaction inline...
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 17:18 +0900, Onno Benschop wrote:
> If anything in what I write here is
> > contradicted by what Sun says, perhaps you should ask Sun before relying
> > on what I sai
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 07:45 -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> Why doesn't this surprise me? When Sun Microsystems started on their
> "open source" escapade, I was excited. A proprietary company turning
> over a new leaf. However, over the past few years, all I've seen is
Sun has always done *lots* of
I still think you're missing the point. The problem was not what Sun said
or is trying to sell you but with your pre-conception of what they were
selling you. While it is technically a "server" it is really a storage
appliance that just happens to be based on Open Solaris and ZFS. So the
technol
On 19/11/08 03:59, Mark Schouten wrote:
>
>> So, coming in the door thinking, wow, Sun has an Open Storage system
>> that might be able to be managed and deployed in a Ubuntu Server
>> environment, I went out the door thinking, Sun has built a system that
>> could be really nice, but instead they'v
On 17/09/08 18:30, Onno Benschop wrote:
> I'm seeing a "426 upgrade required" for cups on a gutsy server. I found
> bug 44931, which says that it's fixed. I can see the directory and the
> symlinks that are described here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/44931/comments/14,
>
Hi Onno, and all. See my reaction inline...
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 17:18 +0900, Onno Benschop wrote:
> Some disclaimers up front. I am an IT consultant, that is, I solve weird
> and wonderful problems for weird and wonderful clients all around the
> world, but mostly rural and remote Australia. I'
Why doesn't this surprise me? When Sun Microsystems started on their
"open source" escapade, I was excited. A proprietary company turning
over a new leaf. However, over the past few years, all I've seen is
proprietary solutions using open source products, such as what you've
described here. Rather
>
>
> Thank you for sharing this with us. It's sure inspirational, but
> getting to the dissapointments you shared further down the line, I
> think to myself. Isn't easier to just build your own storage
> applience? I mean, there are so many open source project which allow
> you to setup a NFS / SA
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Today I attended a Sun presentation called "Open Storage Systems". I
> attended both for my "day-job", that is, an IT consultant, as well as
> wearing my "Ubuntu Server hat". I'm not able to provide you with a
> word-for-w
Hi,
Maybe I am still wet behind the ears (only having around 6 years
exposure to enterprise IT environments), but I am slightly more excited
about this type of technology.
For me, I like to be able to choose the kit that various applications
run on, and pick the relevant hardware for the job.
Today I attended a Sun presentation called "Open Storage Systems". I
attended both for my "day-job", that is, an IT consultant, as well as
wearing my "Ubuntu Server hat". I'm not able to provide you with a
word-for-word, blow-by-blow account of my morning, nor am I wanting to
either promote or bag
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