Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Axel Schwenke wrote: >> But to put things in context, in MySQL 5.0 series the situation was >> the opposite: The bugs were public but the publicly released  and GPL >> licensed bug fixes would be up to 6 months delayd in favor of paying >> customers getting them in

Re: [ubuntu-server] Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Eric Hammond
On 02/16/2012 10:24 PM, Stewart Smith wrote: > The benefit of Percona Server is in having [...] > and features to better help you diagnose what's going on > inside your server. Not to take sides in a complex multi-sided argument with many factors to consider, but from a practical getting-business-

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Henrik Ingo
2012/2/17 Björn Boschman : > This leads us to the following options: >  * Stay with MySQL but no security nor bugfixes >  * Search for an alternative which is even 100% compatible with MySQL + > having full community support For completeness, let me also defend Oracle for a change :-) There's also

Re: [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Björn Boschman
Hi Alex, Am 16.02.2012 19:33, schrieb Alex Esterkin: As an end user, I would most strongly dislike this. You clearly don't understand how corporate users think and operate, how they work with open source technologies, and how they plan and evolve their technical roadmaps. I think I understand

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Stewart Smith
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:55:58 +0200, Walter Heck wrote: > I think it would be fair to take into account both the things Colin > and Stewart have said as many of them are correct, but their words > should also be taken with a grain of salt as they work for the > companies that would benefit heavily

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Henrik Ingo
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Walter Heck wrote: > As for MariaDB, I like their much more community driven development > that seems less commercially driven, ... > At this point I think MariaDB would probably be a better match for > being in the main ubuntu/debian distro's as their whole ecosy

Re: [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Nicholas Bamber
I really think Alex ahas a point. It does not matter what the technical arguments are. The techie will not be able to explain them adequately to the guy making the decisions - who only knows that he is running a MySQL shop. Could we adopt the following scheme: mysql-X depends on mysql-X-5.1 | ma

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Stewart Smith
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:33:50 +0100, Bjoern Boschman wrote: > On 16.02.2012 00:57, Henrik Ingo wrote: > > Percona Server is like MariaDB in that both of them are compatible > > with MySQL and you could do a plug-and-play replacement. Percona > > Server is much closer to MySQL (which many think is

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Bjoern Boschman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16.02.2012 09:55, Walter Heck wrote: > I think it would be fair to take into account both the things > Colin and Stewart have said as many of them are correct, but their > words should also be taken with a grain of salt as they work for > the compan

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Walter Heck
I think it would be fair to take into account both the things Colin and Stewart have said as many of them are correct, but their words should also be taken with a grain of salt as they work for the companies that would benefit heavily from having 'their' fork be the replacement of mysql. That's not

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Michael Widenius
Hi! > "Henrik" == Henrik Ingo writes: Henrik> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Walter Heck wrote: >> As for MariaDB, I like their much more community driven development >> that seems less commercially driven, Henrik> ... >> At this point I think MariaDB would probably be a better match f

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-21 Thread Axel Schwenke
Henrik Ingo wrote: > > For completeness, let me also defend Oracle for a change :-) There's > also the 3rd option: > > * Stay with MySQL and blindly apply the updates that Oracle continues > to release as GPL. > But to put things in context, in MySQL 5.0 series the situation was > the opposit

Re: [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-15 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 13 Feb 2012, at 15:20, Eddie Bachle wrote: > As Linux gains more public recognition, more and more Windows-only > organizations will consider using it as an alternative, especially for their > web servers. This is especially true because of the fact that each of the > necessarily main