Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:27:00AM -0500, James Dinkel wrote: > You should check out Augeas ( http://augeas.net/index.html ). It is > exactly what you all are talking about: a management framework, and > not a gui in itself but provides a framework that gui (web, ncurses, > etc) frontends could be

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-06 Thread James Dinkel
You should check out Augeas ( http://augeas.net/index.html ). It is exactly what you all are talking about: a management framework, and not a gui in itself but provides a framework that gui (web, ncurses, etc) frontends could be built upon. This is part of the RedHat Emerging Technologies Project

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-05 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
As we talk on Prague, one idea was to have some kind of diference between the tool generated configuration and the user edited options, for example if the tool read and write until it find a line containing "Stop here" or some other section identifier, in which case it will be acepted some hand mad

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Well, the plan is to have some things ready for intrepid, we have separate the project on 3 different phases: write backends, write interfaces for those backends, write the UI Frame for manage those interfaces in a graphical way, so for intrepid at least we need to have a bug group of backends and

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Neal McBurnett
Re: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-centralized-services-administrator First, thanks! I think something along the lines of a simplified admin for servers is critically important for Ubuntu to deliver on its mission. And I do think that due to the huge demand, we need

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Jonathan Jesse
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Jonathan Jesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Dan Shearer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 08:00:31PM -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: >> > I have been working on the blueprint of a centralized managment consol

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Jonathan Jesse
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Dan Shearer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 08:00:31PM -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > > I have been working on the blueprint of a centralized managment console > : > > > https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-centralized-

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Dan: that's the exact contribution i was expecting :D The most tricky part is to define a structure of meta data for this (i'm thinking in metadata as the one defined in ufw's specification [1] a sort of plain text format or xml file to use it as part of the parser (maybe use a "dynamic" parser th

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Dan: that's the exact contribution i was expecting :D The most tricky part is to define a structure of meta data for this (i'm thinking in metadata as the one defined in ufw's specification [1] a sort of plain text format or xml file to use it as part of the parser (maybe use a "dynamic" parser th

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-04 Thread Dan Shearer
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 08:00:31PM -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: > I have been working on the blueprint of a centralized managment console : > https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-centralized-services-administrator I'm not sure how best to contribute, so I'll start with a

Re: RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-03 Thread Jonathan Jesse
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Nicolas Valcarcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been working on the blueprint of a centralized managment console > [1] using some of the ideas that some people gave me at UDS, i'm a little > stuck (and still fighting with the timezone changes) on some technica

RFC: Centrilized managment console

2008-06-03 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
I have been working on the blueprint of a centralized managment console [1] using some of the ideas that some people gave me at UDS, i'm a little stuck (and still fighting with the timezone changes) on some technical details (i.e. how need meta data be defined) i will really apreciate if you can gi