Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 01:15 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote: i can choose to use JACK only, when i have pulse installed.. thats the way i use my production machine.. pulse is crap is an opinion.. there is nothing wrong with pulse, and no reason to remove it to use JACK without pulse.. nor is

Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Len Ovens
On Tue, July 9, 2013 12:10 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IMO the claim that pulseaudio is crap isn't an opinion, but an objective fact. Even if it shouldn't cause issues after disabling it, the way the leveling is one (and often not working) is idiotic. IIRC Fons once said something similar to if

Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 06:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: Quite honestly, Linux audio is still pretty messy. Unfortunately this is true :(. But a lot of this mess is caused by our community. 1. Why not working on one sound server that is useful for all tasks instead of working on a new sound server

Re: Disabling pulseaudio

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Holstein
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 06:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: Quite honestly, Linux audio is still pretty messy. Unfortunately this is true :(. But a lot of this mess is caused by our community. 1. Why not working on one