Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-28 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Yes, except that AudioVideo;Audio and AudioVideo would be enough so long as All the Audio applications have AudioVideo;Audio. Most Video Applications are AudioVideo and it is hard to argue they should include Video without most of them also being Audio,

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015, at 01:18 AM, Len Ovens wrote: OK I have just pushed a new version of the ubuntustudio-menu package. Al it needs is to be uploaded and we can all see it. I'll upload the package today, or tomorrow. We have about two months to make it work, and if we haven't sorted out

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Saturday, June 27, 2015, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: Any other opinions on our set of categories? Because, I'm working on finalizing our feature definition for the Freedesktop Categorization, so that we can start working on that no later than Monday. Looks good to me. Are we to

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: On Saturday, June 27, 2015, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: Any other opinions on our set of categories? Because, I'm working on finalizing our feature definition for the Freedesktop Categorization, so that we can start

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 06:53 PM, Len Ovens wrote: Any of the Standard Freedesktop Categories can be looked at any time. The X-* categories can start after finalized. I'm not sure what you mean here. One of the changes I would like to see is that any Audio only application (like a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 06:53 PM, Len Ovens wrote: Video has two Categories we are interested in: AudioVideo Player Anything with Player and AudioVideo (even if it includes other things) will end up in multimedia players. If it is not

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 11:58 PM, Len Ovens wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: and is only sensible if there are no other categories that further define the desktop file. So, at least one of these two: * AudioVideo;Audio * AudioVideo;Video Come to think of it (and I'm not

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-27 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Coming back to Blender, I would personally like it if there was a special desktop file to start Blender in video editing mode, in which case there would be two desktop files for two purposes. Blender also has a game engine, and not sure

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-24 Thread Grant Frank Burton
harvid... the video worked but the sound not.. ffprobe ffmpeg missing. looks like someone is working on it so I'll try again in a few days to see if it works. I found it easier to open the file in audacity fix it and import it back into Ardour. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Len Ovens

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-24 Thread Len Ovens
OK I have just pushed a new version of the ubuntustudio-menu package. Al it needs is to be uploaded and we can all see it. I have first of all added standard Categories to our own desktop files in the Ubuntustudio Information menu. They are now System;Documentation; I realized that the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-23 Thread Len Ovens
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Set Hallstrom wrote: Actualy, maybe it's a good idea. I was looking closer at the graphics software list and these seem like good candidate for a X-GraphicsUtility category : Ristretto (viewer) Entangle (wireless camera management) Rapid Photo Downloader (memory card/

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-23 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-06-22 16:16, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I had a go at updating this page to what seems appropriate right now - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FreedesktopCategories It's all straight from the Freedesktop standard, except for a few additions/changes. Good job!! ## X-Typography Not

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-23 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-06-23 12:32, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I just meant that you are better at deciding all of those things. :) ok *blush* i will do my best to face those expectations with dignity. Yes, I gathered as much. I will remove it, since I don't think anyone actually asked to have it there. For

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-23 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote: On 2015-06-22 16:16, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I had a go at updating this page to what seems appropriate right now - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FreedesktopCategories It's all straight from the Freedesktop standard, except for a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-23 Thread Len Ovens
Some of this stuff works as is :) I just changed Multimedia Playback from about 150 lines of file names not to include to: Include And CategoryAudioVideo/Category CategoryPlayer/Category /And /Include So now I can set Audio Production

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Also, I remember we were talking about Utility applications, but for Audio or Video, or even Graphics. Does this work? X-AudioUtilty X-VideoUtility X-GraphicsUtility -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I added all of the propopsed so far to the wiki. I am forgetting any from the past? There are now 5 new, non-standard categories for audio, 2 new for graphics and audio each. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FreedesktopCategories -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: There's AudioVideoEditing, but no AudioEditing and no VideoEditing. Perhaps those two should be added as well? Ardour uses AudioEditing, but the debian packager takes it out (Lintian probably coughs). I think one could filter using AudioVideoEditing

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Len Ovens wrote: categories, we should have ready numbers to prove the need. It seems to me that with the menu, 24 items maxes out one column. If doing a search in unity or gnome session I think it is less (20ish I think), to fill the screen with no scrolling, but we

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: There's AudioVideoEditing, but no AudioEditing and no VideoEditing. Perhaps those two should be added as well? Another thought in all this. With regard to adding new Freedesktop Categories, There must be some kind of formula (even if unspoken) that

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories

2015-06-22 Thread Grant Frank Burton
trying to understand what's going on here. it appears to make more sense then how things are now so I started going through the menus and programs so I could formulate a question for you. I open up Ardour and I felt like I just landed on the moon looks nice What I was going to try

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
There's AudioVideoEditing, but no AudioEditing and no VideoEditing. Perhaps those two should be added as well? -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I had a go at updating this page to what seems appropriate right now - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FreedesktopCategories It's all straight from the Freedesktop standard, except for a few additions/changes. DiscBurning is deemed not to belong to AudioVideo. But, there is no immediate

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Our Set of Freedesktop Categories, WAS:Re: Feature Definition Discussion: Multimedia Application Categorization

2015-06-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Sorry, I almost forgot one of the custom categories we already had before hand. ## X-Processing (Audio;AudioVideo) Another possible word would be Effects. Both seem ok to me, though Processing probably is the most technically correct -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list