[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 - Was: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 77, Issue 15

2013-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 20:51 +0200, Zak wrote: > Ralf Mardorf I didn't heard you at this time (???) I haven't seen the wallpaper or I saw it and didn't notice it at this time. If you do not want to get input from others, then simply don't post to the list. It was just a comment about what I notice

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 11:00 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > On 19 sep 2013, at 08:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote: > >>> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. > > > > Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but th

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-19 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On 19 sep 2013, at 08:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote: >>> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. > > Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the > contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fo

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote: > > IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me, OTOH German designers are accustomed to take car

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Shubham Mishra
On 09/19/2013 01:16 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I really don't see anything political about this WP. IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. UI freeze is tomorrow. This will be our new default WP for 13.10. The upload has already been requested. I don't see anything wrong with it eit

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I really don't see anything political about this WP. IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. UI freeze is tomorrow. This will be our new default WP for 13.10. The upload has already been requested. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify sett

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
Hi, I think it's a bit far fetched. If you want you can probably get a swastika out of most font types when printing the letters U, S or number 5. Should we ban all square looking fonts just in case someone might interpret it as an image of something else than the actual letter or number? IMHO, i

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread lukefromdc
It's not I who made this connection, I don't easily spot subtle things. I went looking when someone else brought it up. The 2007 COF issue was brought to by an African-American activist On 09/18/2013 at 3:07 PM, "Jimmy Sjölund" wrote: > >Hi, > >I think it's a bit far fetched. If you want you can

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:10 PM, wrote: > It's not I who made this connection, I don't easily spot subtle things. I > went looking when someone else brought it up. The 2007 COF issue > was brought to by an African-American activist > > Ah no, I didn't suggest you did. Ralf brought it up and other

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 19:31 +0100, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > Right now I Startpage cannot find a link to that symbol. My search skills, > though, > leave much to be desired. > > I've seen this "KKK circle" in bathroom graffiti, heard it discussed in > person, but never seen it online. >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread lukefromdc
All this just means we need to exercise due caution On 09/18/2013 at 3:16 PM, "Jimmy Sjölund" wrote: > >On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:10 PM, wrote: > >> It's not I who made this connection, I don't easily spot subtle >things. I >> went looking when someone else brought it up. The 2007 COF issue >>

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread lukefromdc
The part of the image that could most easily be mistaken for the Golden Dawn modified Swastika is the "S" in "Studio." Most likely someone would not notice this until it was partially covered by an open window, then they might be furious. My advice is to change the font of the large text to remove

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread lukefromdc
The "S" is on the far left, just right of the the vertical "Ubuntu" letters On 09/18/2013 at 2:19 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > >On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 19:06 +0100, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: >> The part of the image that could most easily be mistaken for the >> Golden Dawn modified Swastika is

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread lukefromdc
Any mistaken association with the Golden Dawn would be enough to make a LOT of enemies, most of my friends included. I've met people from Greece who have fought in street battles against the Golden Dawn at considerable risk of personal harm, even death. I have marched against the Golden Dawn mys

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 19:02 +0100, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: [snip] It's an issue for design, the native swastika isn't an evil symbol, but we all know that idiots made it a symbol for idiocy and evil. I didn't know that the KKK has a symbol close to the COF. Can you post a link? The problem

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread lukefromdc
Right now I Startpage cannot find a link to that symbol. My search skills, though, leave much to be desired. I've seen this "KKK circle" in bathroom graffiti, heard it discussed in person, but never seen it online. It is different, though only by a little, from the KKK's official symbol which

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 19:06 +0100, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > The part of the image that could most easily be mistaken for the > Golden Dawn modified Swastika is the "S" in "Studio." I guess we didn't see the same wallpaper :D. It was the background of an "u" that confused me, there isn't a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 14:20 +0200, Zak wrote: > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/view/head:/ubuntu-studio_1310_RC2_wallpaper_01_a_-_by_madeinkobaia.png I would remove the barcode, it's disgusting, smells like capitalism. Take care that the covered letters

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-18 Thread Zak
Hi fellows, Here the RC2 version for the 13.10 default wallpaper : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/view/head:/ubuntu-studio_1310_RC2_wallpaper_01_a_-_by_madeinkobaia.png New things on this RC2 version : - I added volume and relief effects in the COF area.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-10 Thread Len Ovens
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 11:33 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: You should have noticed that all the workflow submenus have new icons too. The icon for the "extra audio production applications" should be the one you designed for me. Correct, this is what I have

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 11:33 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: > You should have noticed that all the workflow > submenus have new icons too. The icon for the "extra audio production > applications" should be the one you designed for me. Correct, this is what I have seen. > USC should only show up in two

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-09 Thread Len Ovens
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-08 at 09:12 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Len Ovens wrote: On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IMO everything is ok, excepted of the fact that I dislike it, when I click "Extra Audio Production Application" the "Ub

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-09 Thread lukefromdc
USC strikes me as a replacement for GNOME app-install, it and Synaptic do two different jobs. I agree with keeping both USC or one of its competitors plus Synaptic in default installations. For an end user, Synaptic would be pretty opaque. For a hacker needing fine-grained control, USC becomes of

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-08 at 09:12 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Len Ovens wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > >> IMO everything is ok, excepted of the fact that I dislike it, when I > >> click "Extra Audio Production Application" the "Ubuntu Software Center"

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Len Ovens wrote: On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IMO everything is ok, excepted of the fact that I dislike it, when I click "Extra Audio Production Application" the "Ubuntu Software Center" is opened, providing games such as "Potato Guy". If there's no way to ope

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IMO everything is ok, excepted of the fact that I dislike it, when I click "Extra Audio Production Application" the "Ubuntu Software Center" is opened, providing games such as "Potato Guy". If there's no way to open it providing audio production apps, th

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I like all of the material. Some details that I wouldn't mind trying differently are: * Make the text "STUDIO" just a tiny bit more contrasted. * Add a hint of color to it. Could be any part of the image. Background, CoF, or text. Might make it more aliv

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Ralf, Technically, the purpose of the Ubuntu Software Center is to let you search for whatever application you want. But I agree that there should be a way for this. Len will be able to fix it I believe. Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Ubuntu Studio Release Manager On 2013/9/8 下午8:29, "R

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-08 at 13:46 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > I like all of the material. > > Some details that I wouldn't mind trying differently are: > > * Make the text "STUDIO" just a tiny bit more contrasted. > * Add a hint of color to it. Could be any part of the image. > Background, CoF, or t

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
The quality of the contrasts is very different on different screens and settings. Tried a different setting, and it looked pretty good actually. But, I'd still like to experiment with coloring, if possible. On Sun, Sep 8, 2013, at 01:46 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > I like all of the material. > > So

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-08 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I like all of the material. Some details that I wouldn't mind trying differently are: * Make the text "STUDIO" just a tiny bit more contrasted. * Add a hint of color to it. Could be any part of the image. Background, CoF, or text. Might make it more alive. Otherwise, I think this works quite

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-06 Thread ttoine
A bit dark, but nice and beautiful. Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2013/9/6 Zak > Dear fellows, > > Here a proposition for the 13.10 default wallpaper : > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/view/head:/ubuntu-studio_1310_RC1_wallpaper_01_a_tirages-16-9_b

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-06 Thread Len Ovens
On Fri, September 6, 2013 7:12 am, Zak wrote: > Dear fellows, > > Here a proposition for the 13.10 default wallpaper : > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/view/head:/ubuntu-studio_1310_RC1_wallpaper_01_a_tirages-16-9_by_madeinkobaia.jpg > > I wanted to do a b

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-06 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Zak, Great job! Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Ubuntu Studio Release Manager 2013/9/6 Zak > Dear fellows, > > Here a proposition for the 13.10 default wallpaper : > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/view/head:/ubuntu-studio_1310_RC1_wallpaper_

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1

2013-09-06 Thread Zak
Dear fellows, Here a proposition for the 13.10 default wallpaper : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-resources/art/view/head:/ubuntu-studio_1310_RC1_wallpaper_01_a_tirages-16-9_by_madeinkobaia.jpg I wanted to do a basic and "all-purpose" design. The "bar code" design abov