Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 01:37 +, alan c wrote: > Rob Beard wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:36:10PM +, tim matthews wrote: > > [...] > > With regards to 'P*dcasting' it seems lots of media companies are using > > the 'P*dcasting' word now. I don't think they have

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Edgy Disks

On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 02:29 +, Dean Sas wrote: > alan c wrote: > > William Anderson wrote: > >> Jono Bacon wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 15:44 +, Paul Sladen wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello Paul, > > > The Nottingham Lug is having

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dirac playback under Ubuntu Edgy

Rob Beard wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how I can play Dirac files on Edgy? > > The sample videos I downloaded have a .RGB extension (it was originally > gzipped) but they don't appear to play under VLC, kmplayer or Movie Player. > > Anyone got any ideas? > The gstreamer guys are wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Edgy Disks

alan c wrote: > William Anderson wrote: >> Jono Bacon wrote: >>> On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 15:44 +, Paul Sladen wrote: On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Paul, > The Nottingham Lug is having a LAN party / install fest in november > Does anyone know a qui

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Rob Beard wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:36:10PM +, tim matthews wrote: [...] > With regards to 'P*dcasting' it seems lots of media companies are using > the 'P*dcasting' word now. I don't think they have heard that Apple are > looking into ways of getting royalties

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Andy wrote: > On 02/11/06, tim matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [...] > we should not >> be forced to use the Microsoft operating system. I like this one > I think most (all?) of us agree with that, this is why I would like > the BBC to change what it does, not someone to take its content

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

tim matthews wrote: > yes, I'm seriously suggesting being "naughty" to make a point. If they > want to call me silly names like "pirate" or "terrorist" it's up to them. > > and why not? it's a BBC copyright, ok is the BBC an 3vil greedy > corperation or it is funded by its listeners? > > It's o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

TheOldFellow wrote: >> He seems to claim a lot of expenses for computers though: >> Centrally Provided Computer Equipment£1,082 >> its a pity it doesn't say exactly what that was spent on (this is for >> a single year). > > Windows and Windows application updates :-) > > Send him a Ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:34:04PM +, Andy wrote: >> On 02/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > You can't choose which client you read the content in. >> >> If we are defining the client as the web browser then you can choose >> which browser you use. >> > > Er

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microsoft """"supporting"""" Linux

Alan Pope wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/02/microsoft_novell_linux/ > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116249026689311557.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo > http://news.google.com/?ncl=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/02/microsoft_novell_linux/&hl=en > > "Microsoft Corp. is entering in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microsoft """"supporting"""" Linux

Alan Pope wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/02/microsoft_novell_linux/ > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116249026689311557.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo > http://news.google.com/?ncl=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/02/microsoft_novell_linux/&hl=en > > "Microsoft Corp. is entering int

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dirac playback under Ubuntu Edgy

Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:48:53PM +, Rob Beard wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> With the discussion about the BBC and open standards, I noticed someone >> mentioned Dirac. Its been a while since I looked at their pages and I >> see there are packages on Edgy for Dirac. I h

[ubuntu-uk] Microsoft """"supporting"""" Linux

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/02/microsoft_novell_linux/ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116249026689311557.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo http://news.google.com/?ncl=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/02/microsoft_novell_linux/&hl=en "Microsoft Corp. is entering into an unusual partnership w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dirac playback under Ubuntu Edgy

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:48:53PM +, Rob Beard wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> With the discussion about the BBC and open standards, I noticed someone >> mentioned Dirac. Its been a while since I looked at their pages and I >> see

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dirac playback under Ubuntu Edgy

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:48:53PM +, Rob Beard wrote: > Hi folks, > > With the discussion about the BBC and open standards, I noticed someone > mentioned Dirac. Its been a while since I looked at their pages and I > see there are packages on Edgy for Dirac. I have installed the packages

[ubuntu-uk] Dirac playback under Ubuntu Edgy

Hi folks, With the discussion about the BBC and open standards, I noticed someone mentioned Dirac. Its been a while since I looked at their pages and I see there are packages on Edgy for Dirac. I have installed the packages and downloaded some sample videos but I can't seem to find anything t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:34:04PM +, Andy wrote: > On 02/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can't choose which client you read the content in. > > If we are defining the client as the web browser then you can choose > which browser you use. > Er, that makes absolutely no di

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:36:10PM +, tim matthews wrote: > >> well, we could complain ... or we could set things up for the BBC. >> >> Would ubuntu or anyone else have any bandwidth to donate? All we need is >> a server (could be an old 1U box which nobody wants anymore)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Andy wrote: > I urge everyone reading this to file an official complaint on: > > DO NOT use 'send a complaint' or 'make a suggestion' they ignore > those, they will actually reply to a complaint. (if they don't it will > make there quart

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

On 02/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can't choose which client you read the content in. If we are defining the client as the web browser then you can choose which browser you use. > You can't cache it offline easily. can't wget spider a site? of course re downloading a page b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On 02/11/06, tim matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes, I'm seriously suggesting being "naughty" to make a point. If they > want to call me silly names like "pirate" or "terrorist" it's up to them. There is already a risk that they are going to refuse to use an Open Format because they can't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:08:04PM +, Joseph Price wrote: > In my opinion a forum IS a mailing list, with your browser being your > email client. > O no it isn't You can't sort threads in forums. You can't delete stuff you've read. You can't choose which client you read the content in. Y

[ubuntu-uk] Posible contirbution for the fridge,

Before we get to far from the story I thought the following might be a suitable submission. This years Linux World Expo in London saw many firsts including the "in -person " gathering of the Ubuntu UKTeam members. The commitment and enthusiasm of the members shone through in the organisation

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade instead of install

Bernard G Hill wrote: > Hi, > > I wish to go from Dapper to Edgy without doing an installation and > loosing all my settings and other bits which are installed on D. > > U/K/E and the rest have made the installation process very simple by the > use of a live distribution which can be installed, but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade instead of install

Bernard G Hill wrote: > Hi, > > I wish to go from Dapper to Edgy without doing an installation and > loosing all my settings and other bits which are installed on D. > > U/K/E and the rest have made the installation process very simple by the > use of a live distribution which can be installed, but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 06:09:14PM +, tim matthews wrote: > > yes, I'm seriously suggesting being "naughty" to make a point. Heh. You first then. :) > If they > want to call me silly names like "pirate" or "terrorist" it's up to them. > Ok, I'll put that down as a rant > and why not? it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade instead of install

Bernard G Hill wrote: > Hi, > > I wish to go from Dapper to Edgy without doing an installation and > loosing all my settings and other bits which are installed on D. > > U/K/E and the rest have made the installation process very simple by the > use of a live distribution which can be installed, but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Edgy update tip

Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 01/11/06, Adam Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've found updates on Edgy to be slow even using gb.archive.ubuntu.com. >> If you're having the same problem try substituting all references to >> >> http://(gb.)archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ >> in /etc/apt/source

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

yes, I'm seriously suggesting being "naughty" to make a point. If they want to call me silly names like "pirate" or "terrorist" it's up to them. and why not? it's a BBC copyright, ok is the BBC an 3vil greedy corperation or it is funded by its listeners? It's our right to have the BBC broadcas

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The next UK Charity event we can all take part in and make a difference towards.

alan c wrote: > Nicholas Butler wrote: > >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/pudsey/ >> >> Children In Need, which happens every year in the UK since Terry Wogan >> could first raise an eyebrow in interest,will again be occuring. >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/pudsey/fundraising/ >> >> I would very much like t

[ubuntu-uk] Upgrade instead of install

Hi, I wish to go from Dapper to Edgy without doing an installation and loosing all my settings and other bits which are installed on D. U/K/E and the rest have made the installation process very simple by the use of a live distribution which can be installed, but I would like to have the opportun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:36:10PM +, tim matthews wrote: > > well, we could complain ... or we could set things up for the BBC. > > Would ubuntu or anyone else have any bandwidth to donate? All we need is > a server (could be an old 1U box which nobody wants anymore) on good > bandwidth, a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

> He seems to claim a lot of expenses for computers though: > Centrally Provided Computer Equipment £1,082 > its a pity it doesn't say exactly what that was spent on (this is for > a single year). Windows and Windows application updates :-) Send him a Ubuntu live-CD? R. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On 02/11/06, Martin Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure whether you're joking here, but I would be very careful > about using the word 'lie'. Lying implies an intent to deceive, the > accusation of which is slanderous unless you have proof. Choosing > your words carefully is imp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Hi, > > Maybe the tabloids would take an interest? ROTFL. > I doubt it has the level of scandal required for tabloid newspapers. > Tabloids are primarly populist & will not print something which is a > minority interest. Unfortunately that means us. Technology coverage in > tabloids is very limi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

well, we could complain ... or we could set things up for the BBC. Would ubuntu or anyone else have any bandwidth to donate? All we need is a server (could be an old 1U box which nobody wants anymore) on good bandwidth, a few digital radios plugged into a PC on sane bandwidth (with cheapo but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

By the way i forgot to mention that ubuntuforums.org ARE the official ubuntu forums. We haven't been unofficial for a while :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

The forums domain would be in the form: <>.ubuntuforums.org ubuntuforums.org does have mailing list integration for ubuntu-users and I could enquire about whether this could be a possibility for us? vbulletin is proprietory... but it's what works best for us. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.ph

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On 02/11/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something I heard at LinuxWorld recently suggested to me bbc were > moving towards more open formats. > However, this comments implies otherwise. Anyone know anything? > > Beeb breaks out with Windows WMA protection > http://www.theinquirer.net/defau

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On 02/11/06, TheOldFellow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:45:30 +, Andy wrote: > > I might just write to my MP, but unfortunately there isn't an election > > around the corner so it will probably be ignored. > I got a reasoned reply from the appropriate department about the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On 02/11/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the sites such as faxyourmp are quite effective. I have often got a > reply after using them, often from th egovernment department concerned. Not heard of this before, thanks for the heads up. > Maybe the tabloids would take an interest? I doubt i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:45:30 +, Andy wrote: > I might just write to my MP, but unfortunately there isn't an election > around the corner so it will probably be ignored. I wrote to mine about this and, more importantly IMO, that Parliament On-Line is Windows-formats only. I got a reasoned rep

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

gord wrote: > I have also been badgering the BBC for quite some time to use open > formats and also about the awful bias nature of their programs (news and > 'click', their technology related show) towards big business and > completely ignoring floss, however seeing how Dirac (the beebs own foray >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On Thursday 02 November 2006 12:45, Andy wrote: > > I urge everyone reading this to file an official complaint on: > > DO NOT use 'send a complaint' or 'make a suggestion' they ignore > those, they will actually reply to a complaint. (if

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Andy, Thanks for posting this to the list. A few thoughts from reading... On 02/11/06, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was given a link to download.com with about 500 programs related to > activeX and was told to install it, (which one? does ActiveX work on > Ubuntu, I told them I used Ubu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

and what will your local MP do about it? it's up to us ourselves to organise, not let someone else do it. sorry .. this is a little off-topic from the ubuntu list. but we all do agree that the BBC shouldn't be wasting its money on Microsoft licence fees and making their media not usuable for t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

I have also been badgering the BBC for quite some time to use open formats and also about the awful bias nature of their programs (news and 'click', their technology related show) towards big business and completely ignoring floss, however seeing how Dirac (the beebs own foray into the free softwar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 01:30:33PM +, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 01/11/06, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:18:29PM +, Nicholas Butler wrote: > > What I am thinking is if we got a whole load of instructional video > > clips toget

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

tim matthews wrote: > the BBC and open source? > > http://support.bbc.co.uk/ogg/ > > they did have a very nice ogg stream for Radio 4 ... and then they got > rid of it. > > however, if the BBC should look more into open source, it depends on us > the users of the BBC to organise ourselves and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

Andy wrote: > On 02/11/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Something I heard at LinuxWorld recently suggested to me bbc were >> moving towards more open formats. >> (lots of excellent stuff snipped, lets keep up the good work) [...] > Maybe we should add 'getting the BBC to use an open form

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Edgy update tip

On 01/11/06, Adam Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've found updates on Edgy to be slow even using gb.archive.ubuntu.com. > If you're having the same problem try substituting all references to > > http://(gb.)archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ > in /etc/apt/sources.list with > http://www.mirrorservice

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

On 01/11/06, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:18:29PM +, Nicholas Butler wrote: > What I am thinking is if we got a whole load of instructional video > clips together we could make an Ubuntu tutorial DVD. Since DVDs are > getting cheaper an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

the BBC and open source? http://support.bbc.co.uk/ogg/ they did have a very nice ogg stream for Radio 4 ... and then they got rid of it. however, if the BBC should look more into open source, it depends on us the users of the BBC to organise ourselves and do something about it. The open sour

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC and open formats??

On 02/11/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something I heard at LinuxWorld recently suggested to me bbc were > moving towards more open formats. > However, this comments implies otherwise. Anyone know anything? Its funny you should mention this, I have contacted the BBC over their use of Real

Re: [ubuntu-uk] fast external hard drive

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 16:22, Albert Vilella wrote: > Has anyone had any luck/problems with firewire hard drives? Anything I > should be aware of? > at work we've been using lacie external firewire drives (actually 4 drives appearing as one) for doing backups to and they have worked fine e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

On 11/2/06, Kenny Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eamonn, > > Im not sure that you've really missed anything. My mail did imply a decision > had been made, which I don't think it has. No, that's fine. Wasn't criticising, I was just honestly asking. I jump in and out of the list when I have tim

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

Eamonn, Im not sure that you've really missed anything. My mail did imply a decision had been made, which I don't think it has. However I do think it is a good way for new users to use as a resource. I believe the list is good for people interested in getting involved in ubuntu-uk (im not sugges

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

On 11/2/06, Kenny Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I think it would be great to have a ubuntu-uk forum, and I would also be > happy to volunteer my services in forum moderation. > > I also agree with Daniel, regarding the use of a proprietry system being > counter productive to the m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

Quoting Kenny Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > I think it would be great to have a ubuntu-uk forum, and I would also be > happy to volunteer my services in forum moderation. > > I would like to offer my services tooI can also provide web hosting if needed... Cheers Paul -- ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

Hi All, I think it would be great to have a ubuntu-uk forum, and I would also be happy to volunteer my services in forum moderation. I also agree with Daniel, regarding the use of a proprietry system being counter productive to the message we are spreading. However, whilst Ubuntu links to it as i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The next UK Charity event we can all take part in and make a difference towards.

> Time scale wise probably not enough for this year but it is always a > good one for next year hey. > Well the work of making people aware of Children in Need has been done. The Work of raising some money , even if its£100 , shouldnt take more than an hour to to organise and do. But I like

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The next UK Charity event we can all take part in and make a difference towards.

Here's another idea too for next year that would raise the stake one step higher. Go out and about with a bucket and Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu cds everyone that drops money into the bucket gets a cd that way they think there getting something for a price so need to try it out we get a shed load of m