Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, May 05, 2012 at 02:41:32PM +0100, alan c wrote: > I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to > register a bug, and works pretty well. I cannot recall using it for > very long so perhaps it is relatively new facility, or if I have > just recently become aware of it. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-05 Thread alan c
On 04/05/12 17:32, Gareth France wrote: that new people don't already know the routine I have often forgotten how to do this (several times) and several times have used web, wiki or various searches, and I have been frustrated that this most convenient way is not generally the one which is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-05 Thread Piskie
On 05/05/12 14:41, alan c wrote: On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: ubuntu-bug unity (replacing "unity" with whatever package has the issue) Then follow the prompts on the screen. I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to register a bug, and works pretty well. I can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-05 Thread alan c
On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: ubuntu-bug unity (replacing "unity" with whatever package has the issue) Then follow the prompts on the screen. I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to register a bug, and works pretty well. I cannot recall using it for very long

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: > On 04/05/12 07:16, Gareth France wrote: >> I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. >> It always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me >> getting shouted at by people. > > Wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
> What does this tell you? :) > > I'm happy to help people file bugs and help gather the "right" > information to make them the best bugs they can be. > > The easiest way to file bugs is most often dropping to a terminal and > running the following:- > > ubuntu-bug unity > > (replacing "unity" with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 07:16, Gareth France wrote: > I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. It > always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me getting > shouted at by people. What does this tell you? :) I'm happy to help

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread kpb
On 04/05/12 08:25, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-04 08:59, Alan Pope wrote: It's funny you should ask that. I'm at a Canonical product sprint this week and one of our tasks was to review the 12.04 release and make suggestions for how things coul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 15:16, Gareth France wrote: I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. It always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me getting shouted at by people. I have posted on forums for pre-release versions, the intention being to say 'I'm having this i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread kpb
On 04/05/12 07:59, Alan Pope wrote: One point which came up was that 12.04 was very stable from very early on in the cycle. There were very few catastrophic breakages which led to a broken desktop (such as X version migrations or compiz/unity inconsistencies in packaging). It was (more often th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
> > However, I'm not sure if the developer's particularly want bugs of this > sort reported. The problem being that they are upstream issues and it > seems that Ubuntu developers cannot do much about them until the fix > trickles down, if it ever does. The best they can do, it seems, is to keep >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Tony Pursell
On 4 May 2012 07:59, Alan Pope wrote: > Things break and when > they do we should help people to fix them or file bugs so developers > can fix the issue. > > If we don't then we're doing a disservice to the next person who has > the issue. > I agree with this wholeheartedly and I have often po

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-04 08:59, Alan Pope wrote: > It's funny you should ask that. I'm at a Canonical product sprint > this week and one of our tasks was to review the 12.04 release and > make suggestions for how things could be improved. Good luck this week, Al

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 08:12, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:06, Piskie wrote: How would you do it Alan ? I wouldn't upgrade now. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http:/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:06, Piskie wrote: > How would you do it Alan ? > I wouldn't upgrade now. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 08:04, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:21, Piskie wrote: You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up. I use these commands to do so sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get dis

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:21, Piskie wrote: > You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up. > > I use these commands to do so > > sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > > sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > I wouldn't r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:00, kpb wrote: > I have always had a separate /home and reinstalled when changing > version. To be clear, there is nothing wrong with doing that. One of my machines is setup like that too, but that's by virtue of / being an SSD and /ho

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-03 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 07:00, kpb wrote: On 03/05/12 23:22, Alan Pope wrote: If everyone just re-installed the OS whenever the wind changed direction we'd end up with a significantly worse OS as a result. When everyone keeps telling everyone else to reinstall, we end up with the state that Windows is in.

[ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-03 Thread kpb
On 03/05/12 23:22, Alan Pope wrote: If everyone just re-installed the OS whenever the wind changed direction we'd end up with a significantly worse OS as a result. When everyone keeps telling everyone else to reinstall, we end up with the state that Windows is in. Everyone thinks that's the sol