Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Cornelius Mostert
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:29:53 +0100 From: Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID:        4aa51020906210029u380df0feq3f7cd45be...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Lucy
2009/6/21 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com: Thanks, Lucy. The system monitor gives memory usage as about 38% of about 700 Mb (I have 750 Mb of RAM). This will create a file called dmesg.txt in your home directory. Can you copy the contents into a pastebin and give us a link please?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/6/22 Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com: 2009/6/21 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com: Thanks, Lucy. The system monitor gives memory usage as about 38% of about 700 Mb (I have 750 Mb of RAM). This will create a file called dmesg.txt in your home directory. Can you copy the contents into

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Lucy
2009/6/22 Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com: 2009/6/22 Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com: Okay. It all looks fine so far (I don't know how long the machine was running for though?). However, I did notice that it tried to resume from disk, but this failed so it started normally. I imagine

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
Try atop rather than top (sudo apt-get install atop) - it gives you more information on virtual memory and swap space, as it seems to me that your issue may be a lack of available memory causing excessive swapping. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Lucy
2009/6/22 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Try atop rather than top (sudo apt-get install atop) - it gives you more information on virtual memory and swap space, as it seems to me that your issue may be a lack of available memory causing excessive swapping. Paul stated earlier that his memory

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/22 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Try atop rather than top (sudo apt-get install atop) - it gives you more information on virtual memory and swap space, as it seems to me that your issue may be a lack of available

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
Paul stated earlier that his memory usage was only 38%. It also wouldn't explain the boot time getting longer.. Startup being slow could be any one of a number of things. If he booted without the splash screen perhaps he can see at what point the thing hangs and report back, as I'd imagine it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Lucy
2009/6/22 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/22 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Try atop rather than top (sudo apt-get install atop) - it gives you more information on virtual memory and swap space, as it seems to me

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
Okay, missed that. I find atop rather good because it lists used memory against committed memory, and if the latter is actually more than exists (ie. physical+virtual memorycommitted memory) it's a sure sign that there's something eating memory like there is no tomorrow - and it paints it in red

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread John
Sean Miller wrote: Okay, missed that. I find atop rather good because it lists used memory against committed memory, and if the latter is actually more than exists (ie. physical+virtual memorycommitted memory) it's a sure sign that there's something eating memory like there is no tomorrow -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread Vinothan Shankar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John wrote: Sean Miller wrote: Okay, missed that. I find atop rather good because it lists used memory against committed memory, and if the latter is actually more than exists (ie. physical+virtual memorycommitted memory) it's a sure sign that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-22 Thread John
Vinothan Shankar wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John wrote: Sean Miller wrote: Okay, missed that. I find atop rather good because it lists used memory against committed memory, and if the latter is actually more than exists (ie. physical+virtual

[ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Paul Webster
Hi (again)! I'm a relative newcomer to Ubuntu, a refugee from the Windows Wonderland, and I like it very much. However, lately the hard disk churns and churns, almost all the time, and startup is very slow. Even writing this email has taken a long time, because sometimes everything else comes to a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 08:29 +0100, Paul Webster wrote: Hi (again)! I'm a relative newcomer to Ubuntu, a refugee from the Windows Wonderland, and I like it very much. However, lately the hard disk churns and churns, almost all the time, and startup is very slow. Even writing this email has

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Lucy
2009/6/21 Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk: On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 08:29 +0100, Paul Webster wrote: Hi (again)! I'm a relative newcomer to Ubuntu, a refugee from the Windows Wonderland, and I like it very much. However, lately the hard disk churns and churns, almost all the time, and startup

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Rob Beard
Paul Webster wrote: Hi (again)! I'm a relative newcomer to Ubuntu, a refugee from the Windows Wonderland, and I like it very much. However, lately the hard disk churns and churns, almost all the time, and startup is very slow. Even writing this email has taken a long time, because sometimes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Paul Webster
Hi Thanks very much for the suggestions. I installed iotop as instructed, but can't work out what to do with it, since it does not appear in any part of the applications menu (nor in any other menu, as far as I can see). In System Monitor, under resources, nothing seems to be using much, except

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Lucy
2009/6/21 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com: The bootup time on my slightly aging Celeron M laptop is now close to 2 mins. I thought Jaunty was meant to be quick in this department. Do computers running Ubuntu gradually get slower and slower like Windows computers do? No. Ubuntu and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Liam Wilson
Just out of curiosity, Paul, How old is the Hard drive your using? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Churning hard disk, glacial startup

2009-06-21 Thread Paul Webster
Not that old. I've had the computer less than two years. I doubt it's a hardware problem. 2009/6/21 Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com Just out of curiosity, Paul, How old is the Hard drive your using? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk